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Faith 
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Message 451 of 526 (553965)
04-05-2010 9:16 PM
Reply to: Message 448 by DC85
04-05-2010 9:11 PM


It sounds to me you falsely believe that most people who are on these are lazy and don't want to work...
I NEVER SAID ANY SUCH THING. ALL ALONG YOU IDIOTS HAVE BEEN PROJECTING THIS IDIOTIC IDEA ON ME. NO, THIS IS NOT WHAT I'M SAYING.
YOU JUST THINK IF I CALL IT STEALING THAT I'M SAYING SOMETHING AGAINST THE PEOPLE WHO GET IT. NO, I'M SAYING SOMETHING AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT. IT'S THE GOVERNMENT THAT IS STEALING, IT'S THE GOVERNMENT THAT SET UP THIS NIGHTMARE SYSTEM.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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DevilsAdvocate
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Message 452 of 526 (553966)
04-05-2010 9:18 PM
Reply to: Message 449 by Faith
04-05-2010 9:15 PM


How long did you work to before you started receiving SS? I can almost guarantee the amount you get from SS is probably more than what you put in, unless you have been working full time for more than 20 years.

One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We're no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It is simply too painful to acknowledge -- even to ourselves -- that we've been so credulous. - Carl Sagan, The Fine Art of Baloney Detection
"You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it's based on a deep seated need to believe." - Carl Sagan
"It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World

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DC85
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Message 453 of 526 (553967)
04-05-2010 9:18 PM
Reply to: Message 445 by Faith
04-05-2010 9:04 PM


Re: Logical meltdown
Again, the police and military are working for the country
Government aid is also working for the good of the country....
I could care less about each individual person. it's for the good of the country to keep the country strong economically and socially.

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Faith 
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Message 454 of 526 (553968)
04-05-2010 9:19 PM
Reply to: Message 450 by DevilsAdvocate
04-05-2010 9:16 PM


HUD indeed is a form of welfare. It's not what is called Welfare, but it's one form of it.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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DevilsAdvocate
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Message 455 of 526 (553969)
04-05-2010 9:19 PM
Reply to: Message 451 by Faith
04-05-2010 9:16 PM


I NEVER SAID ANY SUCH THING. ALL ALONG YOU IDIOTS HAVE BEEN PROJECTING THIS IDIOTIC IDEA ON ME. NO, THIS IS NOT WHAT I'M SAYING.
YOU JUST THINK IF I CALL IT STEALING THAT I'M SAYING SOMETHING AGAINST THE PEOPLE WHO GET IT. NO, I'M SAYING SOMETHING AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT. IT'S THE GOVERNMENT THAT IS STEALING, IT'S THE GOVERNMENT THAT SET UP THIS NIGHTMARE SYSTEM.
It is the government which is giving you HUD and SS money to you, probably more than what you ever put into the system.

One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We're no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It is simply too painful to acknowledge -- even to ourselves -- that we've been so credulous. - Carl Sagan, The Fine Art of Baloney Detection
"You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it's based on a deep seated need to believe." - Carl Sagan
"It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World

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Faith 
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Message 456 of 526 (553970)
04-05-2010 9:20 PM
Reply to: Message 452 by DevilsAdvocate
04-05-2010 9:18 PM


I think SS also has elements of welfare in it. But one DOES pay into it so it's hard to sort it all out.

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Faith 
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Message 457 of 526 (553972)
04-05-2010 9:21 PM
Reply to: Message 455 by DevilsAdvocate
04-05-2010 9:19 PM


I agree, the whole socialist nightmare gives away money it can't afford to give away.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 458 of 526 (553973)
04-05-2010 9:22 PM
Reply to: Message 443 by Faith
04-05-2010 9:00 PM


No, I don't like it either, I don't like being in this position.
Then feel free to stop. No-one's forcing you to do this. No-one's holding a gun to your head and making you put your hands in my pockets and take my money out of my pockets and put it into yours. You have a free choice.
But instead you prefer to go on doing this and to go on self-righteously denouncing what you yourself are doing as "stealing".
This, I think, takes hypocrisy to a whole new level.

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DevilsAdvocate
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Message 459 of 526 (553974)
04-05-2010 9:22 PM
Reply to: Message 454 by Faith
04-05-2010 9:19 PM


HUD indeed is a form of welfare. It's not what is called Welfare, but it's one form of it.
Now I am thinking you are:
a. a troll
b. a delusional schizophrenic
You deride the government for "stealing" money from honest tax payers (aka people like me) to give to "non-deserving" people like you. Your irrationality astounds me.

One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We're no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It is simply too painful to acknowledge -- even to ourselves -- that we've been so credulous. - Carl Sagan, The Fine Art of Baloney Detection
"You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it's based on a deep seated need to believe." - Carl Sagan
"It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World

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DevilsAdvocate
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Message 460 of 526 (553976)
04-05-2010 9:24 PM
Reply to: Message 457 by Faith
04-05-2010 9:21 PM


Please Stop This Hypocricy Merry-Go-Round
I agree, the whole socialist nightmare gives away money it can't afford to give away.
Than stop taking HUD and SS money and move somewhere that does not have welfare systems i.e. Saudi Arabia.
Edited by DevilsAdvocate, : No reason given.

One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We're no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It is simply too painful to acknowledge -- even to ourselves -- that we've been so credulous. - Carl Sagan, The Fine Art of Baloney Detection
"You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it's based on a deep seated need to believe." - Carl Sagan
"It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World

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DC85
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From: Richmond, Virginia USA
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Message 461 of 526 (553977)
04-05-2010 9:24 PM
Reply to: Message 451 by Faith
04-05-2010 9:16 PM


I NEVER SAID ANY SUCH THING. ALL ALONG YOU IDIOTS HAVE BEEN PROJECTING THIS IDIOTIC IDEA ON ME. NO, THIS IS NOT WHAT I'M SAYING.
YET you implied it right here
faith wrote:
I get some rental assistance through HUD. I'm not exactly "on welfare," some people get HUD plus welfare plus assistance with utilities. I work part time.
I'm glad you work part time unlike those lazy people who are getting HUD plus welfare plus assistance with utilities.

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Faith 
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Message 462 of 526 (553978)
04-05-2010 9:26 PM
Reply to: Message 452 by DevilsAdvocate
04-05-2010 9:18 PM


I worked full time from 1992 through 2000, making just enough to get by. I then started working at home which never became more than part time. I get 268 a month now plus basic Medicare. About 500 a month from my job.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 463 of 526 (553979)
04-05-2010 9:26 PM
Reply to: Message 451 by Faith
04-05-2010 9:16 PM


IT'S THE GOVERNMENT THAT SET UP THIS NIGHTMARE SYSTEM.
A "nightmare system" which you are apparently eager to participate in. So long as it benefits you.

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Faith 
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Message 464 of 526 (553980)
04-05-2010 9:27 PM
Reply to: Message 461 by DC85
04-05-2010 9:24 PM


Oh honestly you people can hallucinate anything you want, can't you. I was pointing out that I don't get as much welfare as one CAN get. I'm not saying anything against those who do. Most are younger people with children.

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Faith 
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Message 465 of 526 (553981)
04-05-2010 9:28 PM
Reply to: Message 463 by Dr Adequate
04-05-2010 9:26 PM


Not at all eager, quite reluctant and unhappy about it.

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