Has the bias made this forum essentially irrelevant?

Baby steps, Boulder. If you can't handle even a single piece, you're not ready for the list.Seems like you already have more than two, though. Is there some reason you're ignoring all but a single item on people's lists? The lice thing continues to be the best I've ever seen. The convergence between phylogeny of Hawaiian species and the geologic history of the islands is pretty good, too, but like I said: baby steps.

What a great idea. But I am reminded of a StarTrek: The Next Generation episode where Data became enamored (if such a thing is possible from an artificial person) with the fictional character, Sherlock Holmes. He even sported a pipe to be in character. At some point in the story Geordi asks the holodeck to make a simulacrum of Professor Moriarty - but he miscues when he tells the holodeck to make Moriarty smarter than Data instead of smarter than Sherlock. In the end, they finally appear to give the holodeck Moriarty all he wants - a space ship equipped with food generators, full defensive capability, a fine woman companion to accompany him and the whole universe to explore. But it is just another holodeck room - a simulation.Perhaps the wonderful Percy could produce a similar illusion - when an abuser logs in, he is given the appearance that everything is hunky-dory cool as it always was, but instead his stuff has been sequestered off into a meta-thread of its own.There may be those who would wish for such a thing.There may also be those who believe this has already occurred.

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- xongsmith, 5.7d

Crash I have asked YOU for your best 4. If you only have one, then that's all you have. You can't come along later and then say well actually I am now going to argue the evidence for someone else choice-you are given a choice of what you personally believe is the most convincing pieces of evidence that exist for the theory of evolution today. And I want this on the record, for all to see.The best of the best. The rock solid foundations of your beloved theory that you claim caused you to return to university for, that you study everyday of your life, and that you are convinced is the most proven, tested, and airtight theory that has ever existed in science. And what makes this theory so airtight. well for you, its convergent lice and gophers. Ok, I got it.I will be happy to reply to that in good time.

Does anyone think that this REDACTED will ever garner any reasoned and quality discussion on any topic whatsoever? His entire "debate" style involves ignoring what others say, claiming that no evidence has been presented, presenting no evidence himself, and then claiming that the forum is biased when moderators tell him to put forward evidence to support his claims, all while terminally derailing topics. RANT REDACTEDEven ICANT and Buz can manage to hold worthwhile discussions, even if they're more for the lurkers than any real attempt to change minds. Bolder-dash can't manage to operate even on the level of ICANT.We need more creationists like Aaron. Regardless of the dearth of "fresh blood" and the poor creo:evo ratio, I don't think we need or in fact want Bolder-dash around. Does he obey any of the forum guidelines?

Yes, they are my choices.
I have no idea why you thought they weren't.You asked for 4 pieces of evidence.
I provided 4 pieces of evidence.The ball is in your court...but it appears that you forgot to bring your racquet.Edited by Panda, : No reason given.

Please take your emotional whining to the appropriate topic for that.Don't you even know the forum rules for fucksakes?Did you think someone died and made you King? Next time you jump into a thread with your off-topic filth I am going to have to report you. And I might even cry to all my other friends for support just like you do.Oh no, but I don't have any friends here. Now what am I am going to do?Well, I guess I can still whine and cry like you .

As I said, I want a complete list first.I don't want you guys to go and trying changing the dimensions of the tennis court before the match even begins-not that I don't trust you and all.

Hi Bolder-dash,Bringing this back onto topic, I felt that your problems were all of your own making because you ignore forum rules and moderation, and that reduced creationist participation was due to a creationist strategy change after Dover. You felt your problems were due to moderation bias that caused reduced creationist participation. Your recent behavior is giving your position scant support.EvC Forum exists to provide a moderated venue for constructive dialog between the two sides in the creation/evolution debate. Moderators work to keep threads on topic and minimize disruptions. To the extent that you exhibit behavior contrary to these goals you will continue to be the primary source of your own problems here.--Percy

Since you yourself can't even be bothered to stay on topic in your own thread, I think it's hardly your place to lecture me about "interfering". First, of, the reason most people aren't answering you, is because it is off-topic in this thread, you have been given ample directions about where your whining would be on topic, but of course, you'd rather be a child and a douche then actually go there. Second another 12 hours? the first twelve haven't even passed since you first started asking for 4 evidences on this thread. Even a thing as simple as looking at a clock and counting seems too hard for you.You really are an enigma, Bolder. Instead of going to the appropriate thread and discussing things there, you'd rather continue your childish whining in this thread, almost as if evading actually having to deal with evidence for the ToE, and yet you accuse us of evasion. Funny, really funny, if it weren't so sad...

There is no outrage whatsoever. I am simply trying to show you positive ways in which you can contribute to this site. If you don't want to participate in discussions on the evidence then just say so. If you think bad behavior on the part of others excuses your actions then perhaps you should rethink your approach to these forums.

Your lies about what I "would" have said are at considerable variance with the things that I actually say. Though I believe now that you mention it I would indeed subscribe to the proposition that you are "a troll of the highest order".Perhaps you could now return to your self-pitying whining about the actual topic, which is moderation; I am not a moderator.

One's what I feel like giving you. I've made that choice, and I promise not to renege on it. What I presented to you is the single best piece of evidence I've ever encountered for evolution and if you can successfully demolish it then I'll most likely retire from EvC Forum forever, and you will have defeated the Great Crashfrog, which will doubtless earn you the admiration of your peers (and probably most of the evolutionists, too.) Believe me when I tell you that if you're able to rebut the case I've made in that thread then I'll be far too ashamed to ever show my face around here again. Yup!

Here they are again:

• Smoking-Gun Evidence of Man-Monkey Kindred: Episode I - endogenous retrovirus
  
• Recurrent Laryngeal Nerve: Part II
  
• AIG has an article up on the nylon-digesting bacteria
  
• Is the evidence concerning the Nylon bug being exaggerated
  
• Vestigial Organs?

This is the second time I have posted them after Percy posted them. Any chance that you will participate in those threads?

Percy are you back here as a participator or as a moderator. have you made up your mind yet because it keeps changing.I will tell you what i think the problem is. the problem is all the evolutionist on this site are used to being able to say whatever the hell they want to any creationists whatsoever without any recriminations. But as soon as any one starts to give it back to them they all go into shock mode. Well, that's why I started this thread. To point out why most creationists would never want to spend much time here.And you prove it so eloquently again Percy. My posts are the only ones off topic on this thread? Are you joking. Did you read any others? Did you read your own. but so far you have this undying need to respond only to me. Why is that?Of course I know why. because I have the ability to give back just as much shit as all you clever little evolutionists do, and then some, and you just don't like that now do you Percy? So never-mind that you can talk about the exodus and granny can call creationists belligerent ***, and taq can call them all evil, as soon as I start asking for evidence, in response to a question about ID evidence!, you are going to jump all over me. What a laugh. You can't even see how hypocritical you are.You made your little speech about wanting everyone to participate fairly, you promised you would always be on the side of the posters asking for evidence, and not have you suspended me once for this, now you have the nerve to say it is me who is solely off topic. Or you use the excuse, that when so many are off topic its hard to say who is the one, so instead you just tell me about it. Even after you said you weren't going to be a moderator in this thread. And this is in the Coffee House forum!!Do I even need to imagine the treatment I would get in a science forum. When you are clearly so biased that you don't even care that you are displaying it here so blatantly, all I can say is my OP was spot on.I have absolutely no intention of coming here to kowtow to anyone. You clearly take it pretty personal when you are held to the same standards you demand of others. Recurrent laryngeal nerve and convergent lice. Ha, what a laugh.No wonder you are all so sensitive. I guess I would be too if I staked my whole world view on such a pile of shit.My posts are the ones off topic! Hohoho. That's fucking brilliant Percy.

How many times has been Percy told you to leave the moderating to the moderators? You are off topic ***!Don't worry, Percy will be biased enough in deciding who is off topic without your help. It is anyone who disagrees with him!