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Panda Member (Idle past 3741 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
IamJoseph writes:
More than one [several] applies, regardless of the matter and contents of it. New things can always be. Just because science [rules not laws] hasn't always been or will be, doesn't mean that everything is past our knowledge. The main tree of thought branches into many observers: each can view [know] what there is. Relative size makes for a poor measurement.
1. All matter and contents of the universe as we know it was ushered simultainiously. Nothing new applies - because there was nowhere else for anything knew to come from - now or then. At this point no laws [science] yet existed. Everything was one indecipherable mush; nothing was seperate or seperated to have its own identity: how could they w/o laws? Here, size also does not factor in - because size is relative and dependent on an observer - both never existed yet.
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Panda Member (Idle past 3741 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
IamJoseph writes: Oh - sorry. I thought it was a 'write complete and utter gibberish' competition. You said it, but you did not show how this is possible. Nothing I wrote makes sense. It was not even structured correctly. The fact that you thought it had meaning says an awful lot about your grasp of the English language.Clearly you can only guess at what people are writing, but never actually read and comprehend. While I am sure that you enjoy imagining what people are trying to say, it is frustrating for those trying to actually communicate with you. Edited by Panda, : No reason given.
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Panda Member (Idle past 3741 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
IamJoseph writes: The irony is strong in this one.
Go ahead and blame my english or me - which I'll crack you to smitherens any time. Its my only tongue. IamJoseph writes: If you were able to read my previous reply then you would have the answer to this already. Is my english confusing? If you continue to think that your English is perfectly understandable: you will continue to babble incoherently.And if you continue to only guess what people are writing: you will continue to be ignorant of what people are actually writing. Edited by Panda, : No reason given.
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Panda Member (Idle past 3741 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
IamJoseph writes: If you continue to think that your English is perfectly understandable: you will continue to babble incoherently. a new song is a new sing - but it was always universe contained. The point here.And if you continue to only guess what people are writing: you will continue to be ignorant of what people are actually writing. Edited by Panda, : No reason given. Edited by Panda, : No reason given.
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Panda Member (Idle past 3741 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
IamJoseph writes:
Therefore: god cannot have created the universe. A singular entity which is indivisible and irreducible, with nothing else around. Here, no action can occur - no expansion - no BANG.I concur. TBH:How do you expect anyone to believe you have any grasp of cosmology when you only have a feeble grasp of you own language?
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Panda Member (Idle past 3741 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
Portillo writes:
That is a very nice Mis-Quote-Mined sentence. British physicist Edmund Whittaker says, "There is no ground for supposing that matter and energy existed before and was suddenly galvanized into action. For what could distinguish that moment from all other moments in eternity?". Perhaps you would be willing to quote the complete paragraph from which this statement was plucked? Edited by Panda, : No reason given.
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Panda Member (Idle past 3741 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
Theodoric writes:
The nearest I can find is:
Could you please provide the full quote and context. I cannot seem to find an original in Google.quote:Edmund Whittaker: Physics and Philosophy but it is still a single quote (but at least the website tries to explain the context).I might be able to find a better source when I get home. But since I was not the person using Whittaker's quote as support for my argument, I suspect that you have inadvertently replied to me, when you should be replying to Portillo.
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Panda Member (Idle past 3741 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
Portillo writes:
Who exactly are you referring to? There seems to be alot of people here who arent creationists and dont believe in the big bang. Always remember: QUIDQUID LATINE DICTUM SIT ALTUM VIDITUR Science flies you into space; religion flies you into buildings.
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Panda Member (Idle past 3741 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
Portillo writes:
That statement is very different to saying:
Just looking at previous pages it seems as though some people are not willing to accept that the big bang theory is scientific fact.Portillo writes:
You have changed the word 'Alot' for 'Some' and have abandoned the 'non-creationist' aspect of your claim. There seems to be alot of people here who arent creationists and dont believe in the big bang. But your new statement is kinda self-evident.If there weren't 'some' people that don't accept the BBT then this thread would be very short: "The problems of big bang theory. What are they?" followed by silence. Edited by Panda, : No reason given.Always remember: QUIDQUID LATINE DICTUM SIT ALTUM VIDITUR Science flies you into space; religion flies you into buildings.
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Panda Member (Idle past 3741 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
Maartenn100 writes:
I doubt that they do. scientists say: 'the age of spacetime is 13.7 biljoen years old." It would be as meaningless as saying "The speed of velocity is 10m/s."
Maartenn100 writes:
Strawman much? This sentence makes no sense at all. Edited by Panda, : No reason given. Edited by Panda, : No reason given.Always remember: QUIDQUID LATINE DICTUM SIT ALTUM VIDITUR Science flies you into space; religion flies you into buildings.
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Panda Member (Idle past 3741 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
Dr. A writes:
I am starting to see a pattern... This does not mean anything.Always remember: QUIDQUID LATINE DICTUM SIT ALTUM VIDITUR Science flies you into space; religion flies you into buildings.
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Panda Member (Idle past 3741 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
Portillo writes: You say that only creationists reject the big bang. But the cosmologystatement.org which was signed by many non-creationist scientists have suggested that the big bang is not a good explanation of how the universe began. Demise of Big Bang: Cosmology Statement and in particular:
Message 8Rei writes: Gotta love the quality of these links that these quality scientists give to their work: http://education.vsnl.com/sankhyakarika/http://www.kolbecenter.org/ http://www.ebicom.net/~rsf1/ Yahoo http://www.antidogma.ru/ http://www.eugenesittampalam.com/ (see the link for anti-gravity at BeardMuseum.com is for sale | HugeDomains) (etc - and these are just the people who *posted* their links!) To some of these sorts of people, the Gaia Hypothesis would seem too mainstream. Lets look at some of their quality, applicable positions: "Independent researcher" (lots and lots of these!)"US Naval Sea Systems Command (ret.)" "Engineering consultant, Sri Lanka" (etc) The companies are *almost always* not applicable at all:Kaz group - The MITRE Corporation http://superconix.com/ (etc) Of the names that are from universities, the vast majority are not from applicable fields:Tom Walther: Senior programmer and systems analyst Michael A. Duguay: Electrical engineering and data processing Jonathan Chambers: Postgraduate psychology research student (etc) Several of them don't show up in faculty listings for their claimed universities. Several of them can't even be found on the net outside this list. This list is a complete joke. Very few of these people are even in remotely related fields. Perhaps one in 40 of these people is in a position to accurately comment about the accuracy of the big bang. In short, this list isn't worth the paper it's written on (for which it isn't written on any)Always remember: QUIDQUID LATINE DICTUM SIT ALTUM VIDITUR Science flies you into space; religion flies you into buildings.
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Panda Member (Idle past 3741 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
One of your more coherant rants.
But I know it won't last so I CBA debating with you. I'll put you into the same category as IamJoseph.Hopefully you will continue to waste your time replying to my posts. Edited by Panda, : No reason given.Always remember: QUIDQUID LATINE DICTUM SIT ALTUM VIDITUR Science flies you into space; religion flies you into buildings.
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Panda Member (Idle past 3741 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
Butterflytyrant writes:
I have found that if you type some of his more frequent phrases into google, you can find all the other forums he posts on. Can anyone help me out? Anyone know of any uses of the common phrases IamJoseph anywhere other than his posts?His version of English is apparently unique. Always remember: QUIDQUID LATINE DICTUM SIT ALTUM VIDITUR Science flies you into space; religion flies you into buildings.
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Panda Member (Idle past 3741 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
Portillo writes:
So he didn't spend 5 years on The Beagle studying geology and the natural world? Charles Darwin was trained in medicine and theology. But comparing the educational systems of the 1850's to today's educational systems is pretty pointless.We (rightly) expect more from our professionals than we did ~150 years ago. How long would a person have to study medicine on the internet before you would let them operate on you? Edited by Panda, : No reason given.Always remember: QUIDQUID LATINE DICTUM SIT ALTUM VIDITUR Science flies you into space; religion flies you into buildings.
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