Gay\transgender -- not by genetics, not by upbringing, not by choice

What's sick is that this is true. As well as the reverse - with the proper application of abuse, I could get you to swear off titties and love cocks for, like, the rest of your life.The reason not to do this is not that it is ineffective to brainwash someone out of their nominal sexuality, but because it's incredibly corrosive to human dignity and personal sovereignty to sweepingly second-guess the decisions adults make for themselves after deep reflection.

Is this for real?

You assert this three times in this post, but as far as I can see from inexhaustive and unsystematic selection of studies posted to the thread so far, we have contradictory and inconclusive results. Some of them agreed with your personal observation, some flatly contradicted it.

Flat-out for real.Funny to have to tell a cop this. Isn't someone who does criminal acts, by definition, a criminal? Or do you believe that someone just is a criminal, and the crimes follow naturally from that essence?Gender essentialism is just as stupid as species essentialism, or for that matter, any other form of essentialism. What is this, 1850?

I dunno about that... wouldn't that mean that this guy is black: If simply acting like a man makes her a man, then doesn't that kind of eliminate the need for the surgery?Why surgically turn a man into a woman, if all he has to be a woman is to act like one?Edited by Catholic Scientist, : re-worded last phrase to avoid confusion

Well, in this particular example, yes. But if I begin to act like a frenchman tomorrow, would that make me french? If I begin to bark like a dog and crawl on all 4, would that make me a dog?

I did a quick google search. All I did was typed in "study on happiness of gender reassignment". Here are the results. https://www.google.com/...=84fc3fb1fec5f40d&biw=1676&bih=860Edited by Taz, : No reason given.

Why? Is he acting like a black person? I don't see it - I just see a guy acting like a douche. And guess what, he's a douche! Seems like it proves my point.

Way to play dumb and dodge the point...ABE: Hey wait: Edited by Catholic Scientist, : see ABE

Yes - because the definition of a criminal is "a person who has committed a criminal act".But the definition of a male/female is not "a person that does masculine/feminine things".

I looked on pubmed for "quality of life" "sex reassignment", and the majority of articles on the first page of results (after which I got bored of looking) were broadly supportive of gender reassignment - I included the abstracts in Message 95.What's more, I'm not sure how you looked at the Google results and decided that research supported your position, unless your results are very different to mine and/or you stopped at the first result. Try reading a bit further down the page and we're back with 'research is unclear'.Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Changed code from MID to MIDT.

But how are you (or anyone else) being asked to do anything other than tolerate, accept or understand the "masquerade"...?And why not do that in situations where the alternative is a degree of desperation that leads to the taking of one's own life?

If you want to suggest further investigation is necessary - I won't argue.But until such questions are emphatically answered why deny people potentially life saving treatment because you have an ideological problem?

That's exactly what it is. Gender is performative, its a set of traits that you evince; you are a certain gender because you perform a certain gender.You might be thinking of sex, which refers to the specific configuration of your genitals.

I've never suggested any such thing. I've said throughout the thread that people should get all of the help and encouragement they need, so they can be who they are and do what they want to do.Edited by ringo, : Fixed quote.