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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Let's start at the beginning - What definition of the term "god" are you applying such that this GOD you speak of doesn't qualify as a god? And I answered that in Message 101 as well as many, many, many other places. God(s) and god(s) are human constructs.
I've never yet come across a god that isn't supernatural. I seriously doubt that you have ever come across anything that is actually supernatural or that you could recognize such a thing if you did come across it as long as you are human.
In what sense is an unknowable GOD that is 'the creator of all that is seen and unseen' NOT a human construction? It might actually exist and I believe that it does. It really is that simple as I have explained to you numerous times.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
If GOD exists then it is not a human construct.
All God(s) and god(s) are just human constructs. They are different from hobbits because humans designated them a God(s) or god(s). It really is that simple.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Unknowable is an indication that I cannot define GOD.
Yes, if Bilbo Baggins actually exists then Bilbo Baggins is not a human construct. Very good. Maybe you are learning.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
I have repeatedly told you that I cannot, at least while I am alive, know anything of the attributes of GOD.
I have told you repeatedly that I believe GOD is the creator of all that is, seen or unseen. If Bilbo Baggins exists then Bilbo Baggins would not be a human construct. If GOD exists (I may even have mentioned that to you) then GOD is not a human construct.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Please show me where I have ever suggested that GOD should be considered by you or anyone else.
I answered it, you seem incapable of understanding. NMP. Edited by jar, : No reason given.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Not to me.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
As I have explained to you, I am the source of the definition I am using.
It really is that simple.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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I believe in GOD.
I believe in God(s) and god(s) as human constructs; attempts to explain the unexplainable. I understand that I am but a human and GOD, if GOD exists is as far beyond human understanding as a human is beyond the possible understanding of a worm. I understand that I am but human and restricted to the natural world, which is why the God(s) and god(s) humans have created are basically versions of what humans have experienced in the Natural World. That's why we have the Greek and Roman gods, very human critters with all the human foibles; the Germanic and Norse gods that live in a stratified universe dominated by warriors, the Hindu pantheon that fight wars with bows and arrows. If you believe you are a GOD-eater that's fine; you are free to believe anything you want. I have no problem with that unless you expect me to actually agree with your beliefs.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
I doubt you can find any indications I ever try to sound profound since most of what I post is really pretty simple.
I try repeatedly and explicitly to adequately explain how I am using the words and continue to try to educate those who seem unable to understand the nuance. I have never asked anyone to adopt my public definition and have even said that you are free to think that god is a Kit-Kat bar, that God is a Kit-Kat bar or the GOD is a Kit-Kat bar. In the case of the first two you are even correct if that is what you really believe, however in the latter instance there is yet no evidence of whether or not you might be correct. However, since I have repeatedly explained the nuance and way I am using the terms GOD, God and god, to say that you cannot understand how I use the terms is very telling.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
I define and used those terms, GOD, God and god for the exact reason of the nuance.
I don't see anywhere that what I have posted does not stand up, but if you do see such a condition I will be happy to discuss it with you as I always have in the past.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
It is funny but I have answered all those very same questions for you many times, but I will gladly repeat the answers yet again if that is what you want.
Straggler writes: As a theist which god(s) do you believe exist? I think it is very unlikely any god(s) exist except as a human construct.
Straggler writes: Do you accept the possibility that GOD does not exist? Of course I accept that and have repeatedly pointed that out.
Straggler writes: Do you accept that if GOD does not exist then GOD is a human construct? Of course. Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
And I have also answered that repeatedly but I'm willing to repeat it yet again for you.
That GOD exists and is the Creator of all that is, seen and unseen is a personal belief. But neither my belief nor your unbelief has anything to do with the reality of whether or not GOD exists.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
I believe it's likely that GOD exists.
However, as long as I am alive I see no way to provide any supporting evidence of that.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
There you have what?
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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What special pleading?
The topic is "Can you define god?" I responded to the topic. I explained MY position. I did not ask you to adopt my position.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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