The Search for Moderate Islam

Some Muslims are NOW condemning the atrocities, but for years we looked in vain for any such condemnations, while we saw film of Muslim crowds cheering and celebrating the downing of the twin towers for instance. They seem to have learned it's in their interest to condemn it here and there, or they overcame their fear of being murdered by the true Muslims. Some may be genuine, some may be lying for Allah.

But Faith, I have checked it out. I have read the Qur'an.You can prove almost anything by "quote-mining" whether it is what the CCoI Snake Oil salesmen do with the Bible or with the Qur'an.And you still did not answer the questions.Have you eve actually read the Bible?Are two fowl and seven fowl the same number of fowl?Have you ever actually read the Qur'an?

What matters isn't what you think their writings say, what matters is what the Islamic leaders think they say, their imams and their political leaders, and Bennett quotes a bunch of them.

Of course you don't Faith, because you are ruled by fear even when it is just smoke, mirrors and shadows. Do you mean Faux Noise Nutworks lynch-mob mentality operates on reality based thinking?Or do you mean that "public outcry" scares the ebola away from the US?Do you mean that "public outcry" changes facts? There's that fear bias again.Enjoy

Too funny.You still haven't answered the questions.Have you eve actually read the Bible?Are two fowl and seven fowl the same number of fowl?Have you ever actually read the Qur'an?It's not a matter of what I think the writings say but rather (just as with the Bible) what is actually written.

We've had quite a range of dodges on the part of the prejudiced over the last few posts.The title of the thread is the search for moderate Islam. Whilst acknowledging that there are some real, hard problems with extremist terrorists, proclaiming Islam, we give examples of moderate Muslims condemning the horror and reassuring people that it has nothing to do with their religion.Rather than looking at this and asking whether the prejudiced crap you've been fed might, in fact, be utter bollocks, you:- reject it, without evidence, as "PC";- say that it must be lies, because although you've never read anything directly yourself, some bloke in a book said they're lies, and he wrote a book, so it must be true;- say that oh sure, they say this NOW, but they never USED to; and- (in the case of Jon) try to cobble together some illogical attempt to separate someone's religion from what they themselves believe it is.You're like the guy who fell off the boat in Egypt - in denial.

Concerning public outcry, I mean that the public outcry that condemned the irrational endangering of Americans by allowing ebola into the country did at least have the effect of causing the information about the danger to be suppressed. The reality? Wait and see. I haven't heard any news about planes being turned away, have you?You guys just love emotion, you'd think everything was run on emotion to listen to you. Fear, homophobia, hate, etc. This is a sad degeneration of both public discourse and public policy. I no more think from fear or any emotion than you do, or than you think you do and I hope you do, I think according to my judgment of reality.For instance, it is stpid and dangerous to allow potentially ebola-infected people to move around the world where they can infect others.It is also stupd and dangerous to treat murderous cults as protected religions when their stated aim is to subjugate the world, when they are murdering "infidels" all over the world as we speak, when they are doing violence in cities in Europe etc.It is also stpid and dangerous to continue to support Marxism and Communism when these have been shown to lead to nothing but the violent destruction of societies and the oppression of dissidents. And yes, Capitalism is the best economic system ever devised. Not perfect, best.These are RATIONAL assessments. It would be irrational, however, not to have a healthy fear of the country's being run by such stupd and dangerous thinking.ABE: and another thing that's very stupd is the cansoring of the word itself.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

The title of the thread is rhetorical and sarcastic, and we've been posting in that vein, and I stand behind everything I've said. You are duped.

And I believe that you have been duped.However, I do not believe in magical floods, talking snakes, 969 year old human beings, virgin births or an earth which is 6,000 years old.I like my odds.Edited by vimesey, : Better use of negatives !

Do you guys know what "orejudice" means? It is no more prejudiced to condemn a religion than it is to irrationally support it as you are doing. You guys have the PC prejudice that insists against all reality and truth that all religions are basically the same and deserve to have the same rights. That's a blind and stupd prejudice.

Golly gee whiz, Vimesy Man, it all comes down to the omnipotent God, revelation of realities beyond our knowledge, singular events and Exceptions to the Rule that are intended to prove the existence of the Omnipotent God, which of course you will never be able to grasp because you've denied the premise and duped yourself again.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

No one has make the claim that all religions are basically the same (but the Trinity of Islam, Judaism and Christianity all are based on worshiping the same God and on the same stories).BUT it is true, thank Allah, that in the US all religions have the same rights. That is what our Constitution guarantees.Have you ever read the Constitution Faith?Edited by jar, : appalin spallin

Either the Constitution goofed or it is misunderstood. You can't grant freedom to a murderous cult that rejects the basic freedoms granted to all under the Constitution's authority and promotes violence toward the ultimate overthrow of all such concepts. There is a mosque in America where Nazi paraphernalia is kept in a back room, signifying their alliance with that mentality, their anti-Semitism and their basic hatred of everything the Constitution stands for. You really think the founders intended to give free rein to an ideology that so utterly contradicts the freedoms they worked so hard to establish? I have to suspect they were incredibly nave about Islam.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

LOLActually they were very familiar with Islam.But you still have only posted your propaganda and never bothered to answer the questions:Have you eve actually read the Bible?Are two fowl and seven fowl the same number of fowl?Have you ever actually read the Qur'an?Have you ever read the Constitution Faith? Even if that were true (and you have offered no evidence that it is true) then you should know that that too is protected and should be protected by our Constitution.Edited by jar, : fix formatting

Yup, the PC leftist interpretation of the Constitution does indeed have it protecting antiConstitutional ideologies, a sure recipe for total implosion of the nation, abolition of the Constitution, abolition of freedom, subjugation of the people. Coming soon, watch for it.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.