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Pressie
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Message 128 of 708 (722592)
03-23-2014 8:22 AM
Reply to: Message 127 by JRTjr01
03-23-2014 3:41 AM


Re: Are you absolutely sure there is no absolute truth?!?!? ;-}
RTjr01 writes:
I don’t know; if you buy a can of White paint at the store, and when you get it home and open it and it turns out to be Black paint, you thing that may make a difference?
Terrible example of the point you try to get across.
What is called 'white' by humans is light with a range of wavelenghts of light reflected from the paint. What we call black is a lack of humanly detected wavelenghts not being reflected from the paint.
Luckily we can test wavelenghts by measuring them!
RTjr01 writes:
I have already shown you two other ‘real world’ instances of how ‘the Law of Non-Contradiction’ works from examples you gave me. You may want to go back and re-read those.
I think you should rethink it.
A. ‘White ’ is ‘true’, then ‘Black’ must be wrong.
B. ‘Black' is ‘true’ then ‘White ’ must be wrong.
C.or both ‘White’ and ‘Black’ are wrong.
Add D, E , F and G
D: Both 'White' and 'Black' are right.
E: Maybe both are wrong.
F: Maybe both are right in some instances and both wrong in some instances.
G: Maybe both are wrong and there's another answer.
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Pressie
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Message 132 of 708 (722662)
03-24-2014 7:40 AM
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03-24-2014 1:40 AM


Re: Are you absolutely sure there is no absolute truth?!?!? ;-}
So, JRTjr01, you forgot about G?

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Pressie
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Message 173 of 708 (728664)
06-01-2014 7:10 AM
Reply to: Message 171 by JRTjr01
06-01-2014 12:48 AM


Re: ‘Absolut Truth’ ‘trivial’? !?!?!
Credibilty gone completely JRTjr01.
Even twelve years olds know the difference between the atomic weights and numbers. You don't.

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Pressie
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Message 642 of 708 (769057)
09-16-2015 7:16 AM
Reply to: Message 626 by JRTjr01
09-12-2015 12:39 PM


Re: Who needs a stinken Scientific Method?? ;-}
That's not any scientific method at all. I think that Hugh Ross was not telling the truth to you. The scientific method starts with observation. Then why?
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Pressie
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Message 681 of 708 (771435)
10-26-2015 6:22 AM
Reply to: Message 677 by JRTjr01
10-25-2015 2:23 PM


Re: Guy in suit or something else?????
JRTjr01 writes:
Now, if we can determine that it is a man in a suit then we can rule out a real Bigfoot; would you not agree?
If you can determine somehow that the footage was a man in a suit, you still can't rule out a real Bigfoot existing somewhere.
The question is: How would you go about determining a real Bigfoot from a false Bigfoot?
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Pressie
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Message 682 of 708 (771436)
10-26-2015 6:31 AM
Reply to: Message 680 by JRTjr01
10-25-2015 4:07 PM


Re: Who needs a stinken Scientific Method?? ;-}
TRTjr01 writes:
Here you are both identifying a frame of reference and determining the initial conditions. So, if you are right that these two are not correct then I would suggest you quit using them in your methodology.
No, he didn't. For example, it doesn't matter whether the sea started salty or not (initial conditions) , the sea still is salty today.
I suggest that you drop your bogus creationist 'scientific method'. It's bogus. An obvious lie about the scientific method.

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Pressie
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Message 683 of 708 (771437)
10-26-2015 6:38 AM
Reply to: Message 680 by JRTjr01
10-25-2015 4:07 PM


Re: Who needs a stinken Scientific Method?? ;-}
TRTjr01 writes:
Again you’ve stated it is wrong but have neglected to give any reasoning for why it is wrong
Oh, I can. When I look at those black rocks in the Drakensberg and study them, I don't set initial conditions. I don't start identifying a frame of reference. I look at the rocks first. In the field. Under microscopes. In machines.etc. Then I start with hypotheses.
Your so-called "scientific method" is bogus.
TRTjr01 writes:
Did you even bother looking at my comparison?
Yes, I have. People advocating magic global floods during the last few thousand years are ridiculously stupid.
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Pressie
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Message 684 of 708 (771439)
10-26-2015 7:26 AM
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10-25-2015 2:23 PM


Re: Guy in suit or something else?????
TRTjr01 writes:
First step says: Correctly identify the frame of Reference.
Nope. That's not the first step in the scientific method.

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Pressie
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Message 702 of 708 (777250)
01-28-2016 7:38 AM
Reply to: Message 701 by JRTjr01
01-25-2016 9:08 PM


Re: Scientifically True = Absolutely True?
TRTjr01 writes:
The long answer is: a 'Scientific Truth' simply means something that has been substantiated by using Scientific methodologies; an 'Absolute Truth', as I have stated before, is an: 4. undoubted; certain: the absolute truth 5. not dependent on, conditioned by, or relative to anything else; independent: an absolute term in logic; the absolute value of a quantity in physics
I can't find that last part anywhere in the link you provided.
The closest I got to it was right at the end:
In metaphysics, the absolute "that which is absolute" is from 1809.
Metaphysics is not the same as physics. So, could you specifically refer to where you got physics from that link you provided?

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Pressie
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From: Pretoria, SA
Joined: 06-18-2010


Message 707 of 708 (778843)
02-25-2016 6:35 AM
Reply to: Message 704 by JRTjr01
02-24-2016 12:52 PM


Re: Definition page Changed
So, the link you provided doesn't come even remotely close to what you claimed it said?
You're a creationist thinking that all people are as uninformed as you are.
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Pressie
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From: Pretoria, SA
Joined: 06-18-2010


Message 708 of 708 (778847)
02-25-2016 7:39 AM
Reply to: Message 704 by JRTjr01
02-24-2016 12:52 PM


Re: Definition page Changed
Dear TRTjr01
Thanks again for your comments.
I think that you lied about the link you provided.
May the FSM touch you with a Holy Noodley Appendage and steer you away from the sin of telling untruths about links.
I hope the Holy FSM touches you with a Holy Noodly Appendage so that you can realise that the untruths you tell on the Net will be caught out and shown to the whole world.
Yours sincerely
Pressie
NB Hope are are blessed by the Holy FSM before it's too late for you
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