If God Ever Stopped Intervening In Nature....

quote:

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What we observe is not nature itself but nature exposed to our method of questioning. ~ Dr. Werner Heisenberg
  —Werner Heisenberg

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I thought this quote was rather profound.

"What if everything is an illusion and nothing exist? In that case, I definitely over paid for my carpet." ~Woody Allen~ :0

I like this quote by David Hume:
Some may have doubts of a absolute truth or the veracity of reality, but most do take the stairs.

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Whether your scepticism be as
absolute and sincere as you pretend,
we shall learn bye and bye, when the
company breaks up: We shall then
see, whether you go out at the door
or the window: and whether you really
doubt; if your body has gravity, or
can be injured by its fall: according
to popular opinion, derived from our
fallacious fenses and more fallacious
experience.

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~David HumeEdited by 1.61803, : Spelling

Even without senses falicious or otherwise..
If a tree falls in the forest it DOES make a sound.So as perviously mentioned something exist.So could not one say with absolute certainty that there is something rather than nothing.

Or......... every conceivable outcome happens in it's own individual universe. A plethora of realities all equally valid in it's own respective frame of reference. Or not.

Hi Catholic Scientist,
q\I like beer= Subjective
It's after 4 here. = relative
I get to go home soon. =wishful thinking
When I get home I'm going to drink a beer.= prediction

Hi Catholic Scientist.So are you saying because of Heisenberg Uncertainty principal
we can not have absolutes?I know there is a grave in Tombstone Az that is inscribed: Lester Moore is absolutely dead no gray area there.

No absoluteness to it as far as we know.
However I wont kick a stone to refute thee thus. "For lack of a nail the kingdom was lost."I get what you folks are saying. I just think for now we are not able to drill down to what reality is. With the discovery of the Higgs scientist are getting closer to finding out how matter is manifest.
Rather than being inexplicable there is now a particle associated with why other particles have mass.
Arguing that reality is not discrete was already done in the twenties with introduction of quantum physic but we still do not fully understand the strangeness of it all. So for now we say things like
There are no absolutes other than the tautological and trivial.

absolutely
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adverb
adverb: absolutely1.
with no qualification, restriction, or limitation; totally.
"she trusted him absolutely"
synonyms: completely, totally, utterly, perfectly, entirely, wholly, fully, quite, thoroughly, unreservedly; More
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exactly, precisely, decisively, conclusively, manifestly, in every way, in every respect, one hundred percent, every inch, to the hilt; dead
adjective \ˈded\: no longer alive or living : no longer having life
: not able to feel or move
: very tired The opposite of dead.

Hi Stile,Lester Moore was buried in Boot hill cemetery in Tombstone AZ
in around 1883.That is 131 years ago. The oldest recorded human ever is 127. So even if
Lester Moore was born in the 1880's he would still be dead.As far as saying there are no birds. I know there are birds.
I absolutely know there are birds. In fact I have two parrots as pets. I buy bird food. I feed them. They shit it out. I can absolutely tell you birds exist.Cartesian doubt is another matter. I can not prove I am not some brain in a vat or a evil demon is not controlling my thoughts and everything that exist is a figment of my imagination.

Well there can be three likely answers.1. Lester Moore is dead
2. Lester Moore is alive
3. Lester Moore is dead in a my dream world existence.If my whole existence is a dream and can not be distinguished from any other existence then that is reality and Lester Moore is dead.If one applies Occam's Razor that either someone truly exist verses a Evil demon is controlling ones thoughts then Lester Moore is dead because that is a simpler explaination than the latter condition: a Fantastical supernatural demon is controlling ones mind.So either way Lester Moore has popped his clogs mate.

Hi Modulous, That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

Hi Ringo, tell me.When did you absolutely stop beating your wife?You see there is no way to answer that question without admitting you beat your wife.Just as there is no way to answer your question that a inanimate object like a rock is either absolutely alive or dead.

Hi Ringo. Perhaps philosophically, but metabolically speaking when all bodily metabolic activity has stopped that is absolutely a dead person.
And I was not speaking from the concept of a alive to death continuum, but rather from the end point itself. Now brain dead, cold water drowning and the like I see your point. But decapitation, death by hanging or electrocution those are final and absolute would you agree? Lets say when all human metabolic activity has ceased for say 5 days would you say that is a absolutely dead person? Lets say some guy named Lester Moore got a chest full of 4 slugs from a 44 revolver. He stopped breathing, bled out and his heart stopped beating. He was buried and began to decompose. Would you say he was absolutely dead?

What will it take to convince you that death is a absolute?
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.