Yes, The Real The New Awesome Primary Thread

No. You don't know what my view is of alternative media, nor do you have any reason to presume anything other than merely calling something alternative does not carry any persuasive weight.My question is why an appeal to unnamed "alternative media" that is at best "mostly american" is a persuasive argument. "Alternet" and 2600 magazine are examples of "alternative" media. Would you find cites to those sources as any kind of persuasive support on politics.Citing a source as credible because of its popularity makes a bad argument. Citing sources merely because they disagree with such sources is no argument at all. I understand that you have an opinion, but with arguments like this, you couldn't persuade a drunkard to follow you to a keg of beer.

I have concluded that citing your sources would subject you to rebuttal and ridicule and that you therefore are choosing to keep them to yourself. I have no problem with you keeping unflattering information about yourself close to the vest.I largely agree with you about how Trump is being treated, and I can find my justification for doing so among the news received from conventional sources. I don't really care about the opinions of those sources, nor do I need to cite their editorial comments on such matters.On the other hand, you attempted to raise an issue based on the opinion of some unnamed pundit and accused a person who had a contrary opinion of being a paid stooge. That much is on the record.

Well if we largely agree, regardless of our differing sources, you don't really need to know my sources. As for individuals here being paid stooges - umm this website must cost money, development costs money, maintaining it costs money and then having a several individuals repeating the same mantra costs money.

Yes because when people have an opinion different from yours they must be paid stooges. They better jack up the dosage on the chemtrails cause you've clearly seen through their plan

I wish I could find someone to pay me to disagree with Big Al. most of the time I can't figure out what he's talking about, but when I do I almost always disagree with him. It would be a great way to make a little extra cash.

Well my sources say your sources are wrong. So I win?

It could just be some weird old dude writing his own code and running his own server in his basement. Operational costs would be on the regular power bill and in his free time.Have you ever been asked for even a penny or ever seen a single advertisement? I've been posting here for over ten years. I've even offered to give money, but it was declined because the issue was time.The copyright at the bottom of the page says the software is from Qwixotic. Have you ever seen their software anywhere else on the web?Don't be a dingus, this place is obviously private and free. Nobody here is costing money to repeat the same mantra. It's honestly just a regular old amateur circlejerk.I'm glad you're aboard.Um, so yeah, topic... what would Trump think? Would he agree with me or with you?Paid stooges or amateur circlejerk?

We already know your sources are non-existent, don't we Big_Al. Wouldn't make any difference if you tried to cite these "alternative" sources because verifying those sources is not possible since they do not exist. That's me.Percy, the site owner, programmer, head honcho and all around king of this place is too busy with his "to do" list to get involved with my stooges group.And, yes, I am paid quite handsomely to obfuscate reality with smoke and mirrors as directed by the Boys from Dover^TM. World domination is a good thing, of course, when it's my group doing the dominating, but, I personally, am in it for the money.In addition to my regular duties misdirecting and distracting the gullible public I have the secondary function of keeping all the helicopters painted just the right shade of black.Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

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I am not sure what your view of alternative media is - but from what you have said I presume it's negative.
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I'm a big fan of the alternative media. I watch RT every night. They do present only one side of everything, too. Just like Fox. The other side, though.I love the alternative media. RT. And Al Jazeera.Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.

Well for simplicity's sake, we can consider the two main forms of media; namely mainstream and alternative. If you don't like alternative then that only leaves mainstream. Are you telling me you trust MSNBC, FOX, BBC, CNN etc? Because I certainly don't.

To try to move away from your tap dancing inanities and towards the topic, you seem to be claiming that when a political party follows its own rules and procedures that is somehow undemocratic and denies people some right.When an organization creates procedures do you think that somehow that organization, that voluntary association, is somehow wrong for following its own rules and procedures?Edited by jar, : fix sub-title

Yes, the mafia was wrong to follow its own rules.

Yet more tap dancing and just plain dishonesty Al.We are not talking about the mafia but rather the US Republican party within its own state primary procedures.Is this just another and continuing example of you avoiding providing answers when questioned?

Look it wasn't me who put those two entities in the same sentence. You did that all by yourself.

In what universe is that a persuasive argument? As far as news stories are concerned, I don't trust anyone's opinion about what is right or wrong. I can form my own opinion given the facts. What I am questioning is your citing of an opinion from an unknown alternative source for for which the only offering concerning credibility is that it is not mainstream and is "mostly american".In other words, this is about your post and not about me.