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NoNukes Inactive Member |
I am not sure what your view of alternative media is - but from what you have said I presume it's negative No. You don't know what my view is of alternative media, nor do you have any reason to presume anything other than merely calling something alternative does not carry any persuasive weight. My question is why an appeal to unnamed "alternative media" that is at best "mostly american" is a persuasive argument. "Alternet" and 2600 magazine are examples of "alternative" media. Would you find cites to those sources as any kind of persuasive support on politics. Citing a source as credible because of its popularity makes a bad argument. Citing sources merely because they disagree with such sources is no argument at all. I understand that you have an opinion, but with arguments like this, you couldn't persuade a drunkard to follow you to a keg of beer. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
Ok you get a clue. Google. I have concluded that citing your sources would subject you to rebuttal and ridicule and that you therefore are choosing to keep them to yourself. I have no problem with you keeping unflattering information about yourself close to the vest. I largely agree with you about how Trump is being treated, and I can find my justification for doing so among the news received from conventional sources. I don't really care about the opinions of those sources, nor do I need to cite their editorial comments on such matters. On the other hand, you attempted to raise an issue based on the opinion of some unnamed pundit and accused a person who had a contrary opinion of being a paid stooge. That much is on the record. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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Big_Al35 Member (Idle past 830 days) Posts: 389 Joined: |
No Nukes writes: I largely agree with you about how Trump is being treated, and I can find my justification for doing so among the news received from conventional sources. I don't really care about the opinions of those sources, nor do I need to cite their editorial comments on such matters. Well if we largely agree, regardless of our differing sources, you don't really need to know my sources. As for individuals here being paid stooges - umm this website must cost money, development costs money, maintaining it costs money and then having a several individuals repeating the same mantra costs money.
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 7.6 |
...and then having a several individuals repeating the same mantra costs money.
Yes because when people have an opinion different from yours they must be paid stooges. They better jack up the dosage on the chemtrails cause you've clearly seen through their planIt's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.5
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Yes because when people have an opinion different from yours they must be paid stooges. I wish I could find someone to pay me to disagree with Big Al. most of the time I can't figure out what he's talking about, but when I do I almost always disagree with him. It would be a great way to make a little extra cash. What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4
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Well my sources say your sources are wrong. So I win?
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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New Cat's Eye Inactive Member |
As for individuals here being paid stooges - umm this website must cost money, development costs money, maintaining it costs money and then having a several individuals repeating the same mantra costs money. It could just be some weird old dude writing his own code and running his own server in his basement. Operational costs would be on the regular power bill and in his free time. Have you ever been asked for even a penny or ever seen a single advertisement? I've been posting here for over ten years. I've even offered to give money, but it was declined because the issue was time. The copyright at the bottom of the page says the software is from Qwixotic. Have you ever seen their software anywhere else on the web? Don't be a dingus, this place is obviously private and free. Nobody here is costing money to repeat the same mantra. It's honestly just a regular old amateur circlejerk. I'm glad you're aboard. Um, so yeah, topic... what would Trump think? Would he agree with me or with you? Paid stooges or amateur circlejerk?
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.1
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you don't really need to know my sources. We already know your sources are non-existent, don't we Big_Al. Wouldn't make any difference if you tried to cite these "alternative" sources because verifying those sources is not possible since they do not exist.
As for individuals here being paid stooges - That's me. Percy, the site owner, programmer, head honcho and all around king of this place is too busy with his "to do" list to get involved with my stooges group. And, yes, I am paid quite handsomely to obfuscate reality with smoke and mirrors as directed by the Boys from DoverTM. World domination is a good thing, of course, when it's my group doing the dominating, but, I personally, am in it for the money. In addition to my regular duties misdirecting and distracting the gullible public I have the secondary function of keeping all the helicopters painted just the right shade of black. Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given. Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
quote:I'm a big fan of the alternative media. I watch RT every night. They do present only one side of everything, too. Just like Fox. The other side, though. I love the alternative media. RT. And Al Jazeera. Edited by Pressie, : No reason given. Edited by Pressie, : No reason given. Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.
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Big_Al35 Member (Idle past 830 days) Posts: 389 Joined: |
NoNukes writes: My question is why an appeal to unnamed "alternative media" that is at best "mostly american" is a persuasive argument. Well for simplicity's sake, we can consider the two main forms of media; namely mainstream and alternative. If you don't like alternative then that only leaves mainstream. Are you telling me you trust MSNBC, FOX, BBC, CNN etc? Because I certainly don't.
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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To try to move away from your tap dancing inanities and towards the topic, you seem to be claiming that when a political party follows its own rules and procedures that is somehow undemocratic and denies people some right.
When an organization creates procedures do you think that somehow that organization, that voluntary association, is somehow wrong for following its own rules and procedures? Edited by jar, : fix sub-titleAnyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Big_Al35 Member (Idle past 830 days) Posts: 389 Joined: |
jar writes: When an organization creates procedures do you think that somehow that organization, that voluntary association, is somehow wrong for following its own rules and procedures? Yes, the mafia was wrong to follow its own rules.
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Yet more tap dancing and just plain dishonesty Al.
We are not talking about the mafia but rather the US Republican party within its own state primary procedures. Is this just another and continuing example of you avoiding providing answers when questioned?Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Big_Al35 Member (Idle past 830 days) Posts: 389 Joined: |
jar writes: We are not talking about the mafia but rather the US Republican party within its own state primary procedures. Look it wasn't me who put those two entities in the same sentence. You did that all by yourself.
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
Are you telling me you trust MSNBC, FOX, BBC, CNN etc? Because I certainly don't. In what universe is that a persuasive argument? As far as news stories are concerned, I don't trust anyone's opinion about what is right or wrong. I can form my own opinion given the facts. What I am questioning is your citing of an opinion from an unknown alternative source for for which the only offering concerning credibility is that it is not mainstream and is "mostly american". In other words, this is about your post and not about me. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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