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Davidjay  Suspended Member (Idle past 2360 days) Posts: 1026 From: B.C Canada Joined: |
Moving along as Jesus the MESSIAH had all his moves designed ahead of time and prophesied about ahead of time..
From designed Bethlehem t designed destination Egypt to designed childhood city of Nazareth... For it says He shall be called a Nazarene He shall be called a Nazarene fulfilled prophecy - Google Search And the jewish preisthood rent their garments and the atheists gnashed their teeth, and the evolutionists ran in horror when faced with intelligence and design and fulfilled prophecy.. The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK. .
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Davidjay  Suspended Member (Idle past 2360 days) Posts: 1026 From: B.C Canada Joined: |
Faith, Larsens idea doesnt have merit.
His theory doesnt fit the biblical narrative at all as mentioned. Retrograde Jupiter didn;t stay in the sky for months or years to quide the wise astonomers, it didn;t move from east to south to bring them to Bethlehem Again study geography and directions And it didnt hover over the manager where they were still living in Jesus toddler years. It was definitely an angel. You have to stop forcing false blind science into true science and true spirituality.. The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK. .
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Davidjay  Suspended Member (Idle past 2360 days) Posts: 1026 From: B.C Canada Joined: |
Lets get back to the topic.... the star of Bethlehem was a sign, to the three astronomers, and was an angel that the shepherds heard and saw but they are not considered prewarned or prophecies convering the Messiah.
But it wasnt prophesied beforehand like the other 93 or so prophecies concerning JESUS who was the Messiah, as He fulfilled all His PROPHECIES. so lets get away from the diversion of the Star of Bethlehem.. IMO. The Messianic prophecies are direct exact prophecies written BEFORE JESUS arrival and before His LIFE and foretold DEATH. The Messiah, or Saviour, or Deliver of God's people has been talked about since the beginning of time in all scriptures, and theseprophecies were called Messianic. They predicted exactly what the Lord of the Universe, the Son of Man, the Son of God and the Lamb of God would do, and say, where, when, how, and why. And His Name is JESUS, and He fulfilled all the Messianic Prophecies, as He and the Father are One. (SEE Jesus is God) AndHe even fulfilled the exact Timing of His Birth in Daniel 9, so that no one or no nation can deny that the Messiah has already come and already shed His blood for ALL. ----- giving Salvation to ALL that will accept it by Faith Heavenly Mysteries .. Fulfilled Prophecy Old Testament New Testament His Pre-Existence Micah 5:2 John 1:1, 14 Born of the seed of a woman Genesis 3:15 Matthew 1:18 Of the seed of Abraham Genesis 12:3 Matthew 1:1-16 All nations blessed by Abraham's seed Genesis 12:3 Matthew 8:5, 10 God would provide Himself a Lamb as an offering Genesis 22:8 John 1:29 From the tribe of Judah Genesis 49:10 Matthew 1:1-3 Heir to the throne of David Isaiah 9:6-7 Matthew 1:1 Called "The mighty God, The everlasting Father" Isaiah 9:6 Matthew 1:23 Born in Bethlehem Micah 5:2 Matthew 2:1 Born of a virgin Isaiah 7:14 Matthew 1:18 His name called Immanuel, "God with us" Isaiah 7:14 Matthew 1:23 Declared to be the Son of God Psalm 2:7 Matthew 3:17 His messenger before Him in spirit of Elijah Malachi 4:5-6 Luke 1:17 Preceded by a messenger to prepare His way Malachi 3:1 Matthew 11:7-11 Messenger crying "Prepare ye the way of the Lord" Isaiah 40:3 Matthew 3:3 Would be a Prophet of the children of Israel Deuteronomy 18:15 Matthew 2:15 Called out of Egypt Hosea 11:1 Matthew 2:15 Slaughter of the children Jeremiah 31:15 Matthew 2:18 Would be a Nazarene Judges 13:5; Amos 2:11; Lam. 4:7 Matthew 2:23 Continue on to more absolute conclusive prove ofJESUS as the Messiah ----- Part TWO Continue on to more absolute conclusive prove ofJESUS as the Messiah ----- Part TWO (From Jesus is Lord web-site ) Brought light to Zabulon & Nephthalm, Galileeof the Gentiles Isaiah 9:1-2 Matthew 4:15 Presented with gifts Psalm 72:10 Matthew 2:1, 11 Rejected by His own Isaiah 53:3 Matthew 21:42; 12:10; Luke 9:22, He is the stone which the builders rejected which became the headstone Psalm 118:22-23; Isaiah 28:16 Matthew 21:42; A stone of stumbling to Israel Isaiah 8:14-15 I Peter 2:8 He entered Jerusalem as a king riding on an ass Zechariah 9:9 Matthew 21:5 Betrayed by a friend Psalms 41:9 John 13:21 Sold for 30 pieces of silver Zechariah 11:12 Matthew 26:15; The 30 pieces of silver given for the potter's field Zechariah 11:12 Matthew 27:9-10 The 30 pieces of silver thrown in the temple Zechariah 11:13 Matthew 27:5 Forsaken by His disciples Zechariah 13:7 Matthew 26:56 Accused by false witnesses Psalm 35:11 Matthew 26:60 Silent to accusations Isaiah 53:7 Matthew 27:14 Heal blind/deaf/lame/dumb Isaiah 35:5-6; Isaiah 29:18 Matthew 11:5 Preached to the poor/brokenhearted/captives Isaiah 61:1 Matthew 11:5 Came to bring a sword, not peace Micah 7:6 Matthew 10:34-35 He bore our sickness Isaiah 53:4 Matthew 8:16-17 Spat upon, smitten and scourged Isaiah 50:6, 53:5 Matthew 27:26, 30 Smitten on the cheek Micah 5:1 Matthew 27:30 Hated without a cause Psalm 35:19 Matthew 27:23 The sacrificial lamb Isaiah 53:5 John 1:29 Given for a covenant Isaiah 42:6; Jeremiah 31:31-34 Romans 11:27/Galatians 3:17, 4:24/Hebrews 8:6, 8, 10; 10:16, 29; 12:24; 13:20 Would not strive or cry Isaiah 42:2-3 Mark 7:36 People would hear not and see not Isaiah 6:9-10 Matthew 13:14-15 People trust in traditions of men Isaiah 29:13 Matthew 15:9 People give God lip service Isaiah 29:13 Matthew 15:8 God delights in Him Isaiah 42:1 Matthew 3:17, 17:5 Wounded for our sinsIsaiah 53:5 John 6:51 He bore the sins of many Isaiah 53:10-12 Mark 10:45 Messiah not killed for Himself Daniel 9:26 Matthew 20:28 Gentiles flock to Him Isaiah 55:5, 60:3, 65:1; Malachi 1:11; II Samuel 22:44-45; Psalm 2:7-8 Matthew 8:10 Crucified with criminals Isaiah 53:12 Matthew 27:35 His body was pierced Zechariah 12:10; Ps. 22:16 John 20:25, 27 Thirsty during execution Psalm 22:16 John 19:28 Given vinegar and gall for thirst Psalm 69:21 Matthew 27:34 Soldiers gambled for his garment Psalm 22:18 Matthew 27:35 People mocked, "He trusted in God, let Him deliver him!" Psalm 22:7-8 Matthew 27:43 People sat there looking at Him Psalm 22:17 Matthew 27:36 Cried, "My God, my God why hast thou forsaken me?" Psalm 22:1 Matthew 27:46 Darkness over the land Amos 8:9 Matthew 27:45 No bones broken Psalm 34:20, Numbers 9:12 John 19:33-36 Side pierced Zechariah 12:10 John 19:34 Buried with the rich Isaiah 53:9 Matthew 27:57, 60 Resurrected from the dead Psalm 16:10-11; 49:15 Mark 16:6 Priest after the order of Melchizedek Psalm 110:4 Hebrews 5:5-6; Ascended to right hand of God Psalm 68:18 Luke 24:51 LORD said unto Him, "Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool Psalm 110:1 Matt 22:44; Luke 20:42-43; Hebrews 1:13 His coming glory Malachi 3:2-3 Luke 3:17 Meet Him Today. The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK. .
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Davidjay  Suspended Member (Idle past 2360 days) Posts: 1026 From: B.C Canada Joined: |
Hmmm..... much better Faith. Larsens retrograde Jupiter was probably not the Star of Bethlehem, but Yes, many correspondances to the King of King, Regulus (His heart) three passing are very significant so any wise astronomer worth his weight in gold, myrhh and frankinsense would have recognised this sign in the sky.
Because we have to remember the Lord of Creation and the Saviour of the whole Universe controlls all things, planets, stars etc.... and so just an angel, a huge bright one would NOT be the only sign of His 1st COMING. Larsens video because of your explanation, then can be worth a see... a see and believe LOOK Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.. The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK. .
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Davidjay  Suspended Member (Idle past 2360 days) Posts: 1026 From: B.C Canada Joined: |
PaulK, learn to differentiate and be exact.
Scientific not linquistic. Astronomy is scientific, astrology is semantic twisting, just as creation is scientific and evolution is semantics. The wise men were astronomers and not mathematicians and spiritual. So learn to write responsibly without distortion. Evolutionists love semantics and double speak and 'double write definitions' etc... but you should learn to write scientifically and exactly. Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.. The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK. .
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Davidjay  Suspended Member (Idle past 2360 days) Posts: 1026 From: B.C Canada Joined: |
Because the Messiah was the Messiah of all the Universe and not a mere country.
SEE Isiah 53 threadSEE Evolution is a racist thread Jesus was the Creator was God, and as such sees hearts not tribes, not races, not nationalities. Learn Ringo Learn...... The stars show the Messiah of all not a Messiah for some.. The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK. .
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Davidjay  Suspended Member (Idle past 2360 days) Posts: 1026 From: B.C Canada Joined: |
No, I answered that already.
Please study, as prophecy is exact and we just have to get it exactly right.. Even though the last one can be deduced from hindsight and acted on before the middle of the Last 7 Years. From 2HindsightPropheticEvents 2 Easy Hindsight Prophetic Events Let me first say prophecy was given by past prophets so the end time prophets would have a basis, a standard from which tostart so they can finnish. We can not scripturally say, all prophets are evil and false. The Lord shall raise up prophets in the End Time, thinking other wise would surely make us false. So try the prophets and let them speak. ... forget this labeling and name calling and just discuss prophecy and precepts. Therefore let me share with you the Lord's easy HINDSIGHT prophetic markers, that unaware Christians can finnally see andand recognize that will finnally get them moving away from trust in nationalism, church, politics, militaries etc. etc... ONE.Simple straightforward, the COVENANT is signed by TEN COUNTRIES. Come on nothing can be more blatant than the world stage in ten countries signing the Covenant. That is such an easy basic event, that even the dumbest of dumb can NOT miss. Its in Daniel and repeated in Revelation. It will take zero discernment to read about it in the news, and see it on TV. I say it takes the Iranian war to melt them together into compliance.. .but whatever, first there has to be a COVENANT. TWOSecondly, according to the days of Daniel seven months later after the Covenant signing, the Jewish priesthood will START TO SACRIFICE before their Temple, the 3rd temple. This can only be done after a PEACE has been established and a Covenant of the militaries and governments signed and approved. So then Christian brethren, all Christians better get busy because the written in stone timeline of the Last 7 years has started. Forget needing to know when the Lord is coming back, for what you have to determine THEN, in the early years after theSIGNING and SACRIFICING is when the Whore gets destroyed and your positioning as whether you are serving the Lord. For you need to have been serving the Lord and figure out through prayer whether you will run to so called safe havens or whether you GATHER as I would suggest, or whether you do nothing and just close your eyes. The decisions are yours. But the first TWO events of End Time prophecy are extremely easy to discern.... They haven'thappenned so look for this TWO major MAJOR events. IHS David PS ) Isn't it amazing how simple the Lord made prophecy so we could evenhave hindsight rather than foresight on the first 2 major events. David Jay Jordan . The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK. .
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Davidjay  Suspended Member (Idle past 2360 days) Posts: 1026 From: B.C Canada Joined: |
No nukes, the Lord created the sdtar groupings and as you will have read by now, the Earth is a very special place, for its where the Messiah of the Universe was born, lifed and died for all.
Faith and I agreed on the Witness in the Stars by Bullinger. Study and Read it and know the signs in the sky. Know about Regulus, know about the sweet influences of Leides as written about in Job etc etc etc etc etc... Learn dont try and tell Christians about the Mesiah of the Universe and why the stars didn;t show His COMING, but how the stars obviously tell tell of His Coming. But only the wise saw it, and only the humble shepeherds came to HIm, and only the searching thereafter have searched for and found HIM. Jesus created the stars, whether angelic or whether heavenly bodies, again read Genesis, or go out in the starry starry nights and marvel at the glory of God.. The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK. .
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Davidjay  Suspended Member (Idle past 2360 days) Posts: 1026 From: B.C Canada Joined: |
Vim writes as he lights up another cigar.."Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Absolutely wrong, thats unscientific, thats anti-bible... thats a delusion of the lazy and the cowardly !! Thats what damnable teachers and preachers tell their congregations. They say dont search, dont study, dont figure out things, just sit as a bunch of logs ina pew, or a bunch of luck and chancers in your college seats. THE LORD says and said. Seek and ye shall find. Knock and the door shall be opened Enoch found out, Moses found out, Daniel found out, the great Christian Scientists found out. Secrets found out increase faith, and never weaken it. Truths always increase faith. The Lord wants us to build our faith and build our minds and use our minds thats why He gave us our MINDS !!! Stop preaching laziness and nothing can be figured out delusions. No wonder evolutionists become evolutionists, all they have to knwo is two words and they know all of evolution...luck and chance. Proverbs 25:2It is the glory of God to conceal a matter, But the glory of kings is to search out a matter. Lets repeat that truth... 2It is the glory of God to conceal a matter, But the glory of kings is to search out a matter. Yes, the Lord hid these things slightly, but it the glory of kings and researchers to find it out. There is NOTHING that is hid that shall not be revealed. So start studying and searching people instead of being so dam lazy and lethargic and making excuse after excuse. Its not conceit to know the Lord has answers, its faith and answering questions step by step or precpt by precept. QUESTION ANSWERED Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.. The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK. .
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Davidjay  Suspended Member (Idle past 2360 days) Posts: 1026 From: B.C Canada Joined: |
Agreement, the holy days in the Lords calendar are lunar.
You have tyo know and understand the Moons cycle as set in Genesis as much as the Earths cycle around the Sun (Tabernacle of the Son) But 'Faith' dont mix up the cruicifixion in the Spring with the birth of Jesus, two different events. And Rosh Hannah in the fall which is a harvest festival, with specific number of days between. Remember two harvests, one for those that have chosen the Messiah or Messiah to come, and one harvest in the End for those who have not. (See Revelation) And do note that Judiasm never saved anyone, only choosing the Messiah to come saved those in the past before the arrival of the Messiah (Jesus). The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK. .
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Davidjay  Suspended Member (Idle past 2360 days) Posts: 1026 From: B.C Canada Joined: |
To this, I am definitely in agreement.
The stars were for signs and seasons. They are not just pretty lights in the sky, and they were not placed there at random, as the randomites suggest. And most importantly, the Earth is not just a random planet, but a special planet with special measurements and distances, revolutions, rotations and DESIGN as well as being the planet, that the Lord choose to be born in, live on and die on, to save the sins of the whole Universe. All things obey His commandments Read`also Enoch..... The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK. .
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Davidjay  Suspended Member (Idle past 2360 days) Posts: 1026 From: B.C Canada Joined: |
Astrology or daily horoscopes etc... is absolutely bogus and false science, whereas knowing the stars, and the galactic plane, and Milky Way, and star formations and their movements is not anti-sciptural. The Lord wants us to know all of science , because all of His science points to HIM.
People need to know the difference, Christians need not be afraid of science. The more you know, the more you gain faith in the Lords Creation, Design and TIME. Selah (THINK about it) AstronomyandtheStars Stars are signs Seeing I have going out on Thursday nights praying under the stars, there is much that seems to be coming to me,concerning the design He has told us in His firmament. because ..... The heavens declare the glory of God and the stars his handiwork. (Psalms 19) And the way they are, is by DESIGN and for a purpose and for a SIGN and signs unto us. It is not by evolutionary chanceas perverted ungodly false science will say to you, but by design. For if you know this basic principle, THEN you have a chance of knowing more. Yet unfortunately most people and even the Lord's people have been persuaded that everything in life is by chance and at random rather than by design and for a purpose, the LORD'S PURPOSE. The church people probably above all deeming the constellations pure fiction and myth rather than their formationsshowing the Messianic story. nevertheless specifically in the BOOK OF BEGINNINGS called Genesis, (A word for word, literal exact account of the true science and history of the Earth and the Universe) states that the stars were put there as a sign for us. (Genesis 1) Our forefathers knew this and studied the sky and its truths and symbolism. And hence, we also should know what thestar constellations reveal, for it as always shows that the Lord will conquer Satan, and gives the exact means and symbolism by which He will conclude the GREATEST STORY EVER TOLD. SEE Messianicstoryinthestars.html Everything was created for the glory of God and in honor to the King of Kings...JESUS. For there is no other Savior in theUniverse, only JESUS. And our Earth is special, as we are at the center of His Creation. SEE Theearthisthecenter.html From the beginning, the Lord placed the stars in their patterns and sizes and placements as constellations to tell HIS-story.The light reaching us was already present and hitting earth because it was HERE that it was to be a sign to us. Therefore forget the insanity of the million light years away denial. The sign of the stars was present from the beginning. For remember, the stars did not get created first but light was. later the Lord placed the light into stars. When Adam was created on the sixth day, when he opened his eyes, Adam saw the star lights in their constellations. The star patterns were the same as they are now. The only difference is that the Lord shifted the axis’s of the Earth,making seasons after the first transgression, so that the axis now points towards Polaris. There was no slow recession, but an instantaneous realignment of the Earth. Therefore reject the mathematically false 25,000 or so recession of the stars theory, because again, the Earth's poles changed soon after creation so that we got seasons, hot and cold and work and pain in labor for our sins, so that there has not been a cycle of 25,000 years as yet. Return to the biblical 6,000 year basis and creation in 4004 B.C. rather than getting deluded by the Mayan start time for anew recycling. Similarly understand that a cluster of stars like Pleiades is mathematically impossible, because stars should be randomlyinter-dispersed among the heavens, rather than in such a close cluster. (SEE Pleiades thread). The different distances mean nothing it is the inclination pathway that means everything. Light speed is not a determinant,because via phi expansions, there are greater speeds making time at light speed a mute measurement of the past. And it is for this reason that the Giza shaft ways are pointed exactly towards the stars. For again, when you understand that the earth is absolutely special and unique, then you will start to sort out why the stars are important. False science says we are merely one of the planets of one Sun, of one Solar System among billions, and yet there is only ONE SON, and He was born HERE and died HERE for all the Universe. We are the central focus of the Universe, because HE IS and WAS, and will be setting His Universe Headquarters, right HERE on EARTH . . New Jerusalem Therefore what we see, is all important and was put there as a SIGN to us, as the HEAVENS declare the glory of God, viatheir stories. The ancients knew this, and yet we have to relearn this, and marvel in this TRUTH.. Psalm 19 1The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. 2Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge. 3There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard. 4Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end ofthe world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun, 5Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as astrong man to run a race. 6His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the endsof it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof. . The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK. .
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Davidjay  Suspended Member (Idle past 2360 days) Posts: 1026 From: B.C Canada Joined: |
AstronomyStarsandSunSigns
Astronomy and the Stars The problem with the stars, is that the dam perverse dark side has taken over their meaning with it's perverse insane delusionalhoroscopes and daily forecasts, so that earthlings start to think they have no choice, and that the heavens dictate what will happen to them and what their choices will be. Absolutely untrue and a diabolical lie ... IMO. The primary PRINCIPLE of the Lord is CHOICE!!!! We all have to choose, and no one or no race, or no nationality or group is sacrosanct that does not have to choose the Lord and His WAY. Psychics and astrologers of the dark side predict forecasts or prophesy via slick slimy speech and it’s done only formoney. It is not of the Lord or for you; do not believe them, as we have seen some of our friends do. It is not from the Lord. Having said that though, let me suggest to you, that the positioning of the stars at birth, does dictate our personal make-up or the variety of personalities the Lord has created to have a balanced community of individuals. You can say, He does this through natural selection in the genes, but I would say, He does this through the natural sweet influences of the stars when we are born. . The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK. .
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Davidjay  Suspended Member (Idle past 2360 days) Posts: 1026 From: B.C Canada Joined: |
First study and note that all prophecies fit together cohesively, including Revelation 12
Revelation or complete RevelationsTimeline Do note that all of the chapters of Daniel, fit exactly into place... And as Faith said, Revelation 12 is about the woman, fleeing into the wilderness at the start of the GREAT TRIBULATION. Faith has this part correct !! Thats at the bottom where the woman with child flees from the dragon, (the AC) We going to Petra as prophesied before by the Lord, to a place prepared for us. Yes, Mary represents Virgo, and we represent the church, not a building but the followers of Jesus from all nations, all races, all genders, all ages, all intellectual abilities and talents, all as in ALL. WE flee together lead by our worldly leaders ther Two Prophets SEE and study 2WitnessesofRevelation. The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK. .
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Davidjay  Suspended Member (Idle past 2360 days) Posts: 1026 From: B.C Canada Joined: |
And notice the exact timeframe of the Great Tribulation... 3.5 years, 1260 days, 42 months exactly.....
Pity we are not allowed to discuss this on a separate thread as we have been trying to discuss this standard and BASIC for a long time, on Proposed New Topics, but it has been disallowed so far. Maybe too exact and too mathematical for evolutionists to understand, but READERS can easily do the math and easily understand. Faith was right, about the constellation association, and the woman representing not just Mary and Joseph fleeing the devil (Herod) but us fleeing the AC devil.... SEE Mathew 24 etc etc... The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK. .
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