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Author | Topic: Nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of evolution. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Dredge Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
RAZD writes:
It's my understanding that if there is enough evidence to support a hypothesis, it gets promoted to a theory. So since the hypothesis of common descent is supposedly supported by "mountains of evidence" provided by the fossil record, embryology, genetics, comparative anatomy, nested hierarchies ... blah, blah, blah, why it is not promoted to the status of "theory". All evolutionary biologists consider common descent to an irrefutable fact, so why it's lowly status as a hypothesis still? Dredge is confused.
A theory is a tested hypothesis.A theory also generates hypotheses, like evolution predicts a common ancestor, so that becomes a hypothesis that needs to be tested.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Pressie writes:
The general theory of evolution was explained to me on an atheist site I was once on (they loved me). It is simply the theory that all present life forms evolved from much simpler forms of life. Versions of this theory have been around for thousands of years. It was a superstitious belief not based on any scientific evidence. Darwinism is a "scientific" attempt to provide a mechanism for how such an evolutionary process might work. But it's still superstition ... scientifically-flavoured superstition. I don't know the general theory of evolution. As King Solomon said, "There is nothing new under the Sun."
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Dredge Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
What about the first necessary evolution - that of inanimate matter evolving into the first living organism? Abiogenesis requires a shipload of faith, I'd say.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
jar writes:
I think you are confusing the doctrines of Dredge with the doctrines of Jehovah's Witnesses.
Utter bullshit. Complete and utter stupid dishonest bullshit. There is no equivalence between science and religion and to make such an assertion is simply a dishonest unsupported assertion.
I didn't say there is an equivalence between science and religion. For starters, Darwinism isn't science ... it's pseudo-science. Darwinism is a cult, and there are similarities between any cult and religion.Since you are in the cult, you can't see pass it. But to someone who is outside the cult looking in, the similarities to religion are obvious. Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
NewCats Eye writes:
"I practice theology" - what does that mean? I am a religious person. I practice theology.I also accept evolution. That is very different from religious belief. Millions of years of evolution is incompatible with the Bible. Theistic evolutionists are heretics and the worst theologians ever invented, imo. Their idea of sound theology is laughable and pathetic - ignore Scripture and Christian doctrine and replace it with Scientism. Theistic Darwinists and atheistic Darwinists are actually on the same side and belong to the same cult. Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
All primitive cultures came up with creation stories about how life came into existence. Darwinism is simply a creation story invented by atheist culture. The only difference is, it claims to be scientific.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Pressie writes:
Darwinists are so gullible.
Really? From the Economist?
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Dredge Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Taq writes:
Please translate this into English.
Dredge writes:
"We present a statistical graphical model to infer specific molecular function for unannotated protein sequences using homology. Based on phylogenomic principles, SIFTER (Statistical Inference of Function Through Evolutionary Relationships) accurately predicts molecular function for members of a protein family given a reconciled phylogeny and available function annotations, even when the data are sparse or noisy. "
Please explain how SIFTER makes use of the theory that all life shares a common ancestor.Page Not Found | PLOS Computational Biology...
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Dredge Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
dwise1 writes:
Engineering owes a lot to mathematics, physics and chemistry. In contrast, biology owes nothing to Darwinism.
An engineer doesn't need to understand why a design works; he just needs to get it to work.When errors creep into religion as they inevitably must, how does religion handle them? It doesn't! Religion has no protocol for testing, error-detection, nor error-correcting.
The Catholic Church claims that her core doctrines and dogmas are infallible and cannot contain error because they are inspired by the power of God Almighty. But this is getting way off-topic.
The difference between science and religion is that science knows that it can get something wrong, so it also knows that it needs to test its results and detect those errors and then correct those errors. Furthermore, science and scientists are very motivated to find and eliminate errors.
Like any good Darwinist, you like to delude yourself that historical science can be subjected to the same scientific rigour and exacting methodology as operational science ... which is patent nonsense, of course, because claims can be made about what happened thousands or millions or billions of years ago that cannot possibly be tested. Claims that can't be tested are scientifically worthless, as even the village idiot knows. I have little interest in or respect for a "science" whose claims can lie anywhere between fact and pure fantasy. So I will leave such dubious and futile practices to the talkers, egotists, dreamers, space-cadets, charlatans and con-men of the world.
It's very different for creationists whose goal is to convince both others and themselves. The only test for another creationist's work is whether it sounds convincing. Even if they know that a claim is completely false, if it still sounds convincing then they will continue to use it. If a creationist is found to be doing sloppy and/or dishonest work, then that will have absolutely no effect on his standing in the creationist community so long as his claims sound convincing. The only thing that will cause a creationist to lose standing in the creationist community is if his religious beliefs don't seem quite right.
When you were on "active duty", did you get wounded in the brain? Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
dwise1 writes:
Huh?
You never did respond to New Cat's Eye, you lying hypocrite!Is that the only way you can defend your pitiful god, though lies and deception? Everybody knows your god, the only one who depends on lies and deception: Satan.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined:
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dwise1 writes:
Huh?
Dredge writes:
Uh, excuse me, but just what the fuck are you talking about? That you are a god???
I think you are confusing the doctrines of Dredge with the doctrines of Jehovah's Witnesses. Well then fuck you very much you fucking stupid god! Your doctrines are all complete bullshit!!!
That's not a very nice thing to say.
Fuck your stupid bullshit.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
NewCatsEye writes:
"For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths." - 2 Timothy 4:3-4
You sound like an idiot. For your sake, I hope you're not being honest. But either way, you are not worth my time. Good day, sir.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Pressie writes:
A Darwinist is someone who accepts that all life on earth evolved from one or more unicellular bugs over millions of years. The moniker was not meant as an insult, but one must wonder about the psychological health of a Darwinist, as it is akin to being a Scientologist or a Jehovah's Witness or a Mormon or a Branch Davidian.
I don't consider myself a Darwinist; I accept the mechanisms involved in evolutionary theory as practised today. It includes natural selection as one of the mechanisms. Darwin was brilliant in his day with the limited amount of information he had available. So, I don't find you calling me a Darwinist as an insult.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Porosity writes:
Huh? I've learnt that I'd never in my life been called "dishonest ... a liar ... deceitful ...misleading ... disingenuous ... a hypocrite" until I started debating Darwinism cultists online.
But you're not here to learn are you.. You are here to be deceitful, to be misleading , to be disingenuous. Edited by Dredge, : No reason given.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Thank you for this information.
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