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Message 326 of 1124 (892718)
03-12-2022 3:37 PM
Reply to: Message 304 by PaulK
03-12-2022 12:58 AM


Re: LNA Unplugged?
Finland was the one attacking Germany.
Finland outlawed the Communist party.
Finland was close to Germany BEGORE the 1939 Winter War.
Everything I just said predated the Russian invasion, known as the Winter War.
Finland was ALREADY trying to take back Karelia, from Russia. I showed pre-Winter War evidence of that, and the evidence went all the way up to May of 1939.
The Soviet Union had counter offers, for security purposes.
Finland refused to give up strategic areas it owned.
The Winter War was as much Finlands fault, or more.

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Message 328 of 1124 (892735)
03-12-2022 6:40 PM
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03-12-2022 3:53 PM


Re: LNA Unplugged?
Russia signed the deal with Germany in August (every person on Earth knew it would only delay the certain future war between Nazi Germany and Communist Russia).
But Franz Halder was invited to Finland in May, 1939.
Every historical source says Germans and Finland were close all through the 1930s.
General Halder observed Finnish military maneuvers in the Karelian Isthmus. May 1939.
Stalin spent years trying to get Finland to swap the Karelian Isthmus for Russian territory.
Stalin wanted Finland to swap a bit more than 5% of its land, in return for Russian territory.
Nazi Germany was the stated reason Stalin wanted more distance between key strategic points, and major Soviet cities.
Finland refused. Stalin invaded. Russis won the 1939-1940 Winter War, and a peace agreement between the countries was signed.
The Soviet Union ened up with 9% of Finlands pre-Winter War territory. More than Stalin asked for.
(Finland got a generous deal when Lenin granted Finland independence in 1917, and Russia never oppressed Finland! Not Soviet Russia, anyway)
Finland was after Russia, post independence. Not vice versa, until the Nazi threat.

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Message 329 of 1124 (892736)
03-12-2022 9:45 PM


Finland was inbolved in Operation Barbarossa BEFORE world saw it begin.
Finland was involved in talks with Hitler.
MAY 20,1941!
It was called Opetation Barbarossa, by then.
Operation Barbarossa began June 22.
Finland launched the Continuation War. June 25.
Finland knew!
Finland supported.
(And it demonstrates Finland was consistently pro Nazi, all the way through World War 2)
(Beginning to end support of the worst fascism ever)

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Message 335 of 1124 (892783)
03-13-2022 11:38 PM
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03-13-2022 1:28 AM


Re: Finland was inbolved in Operation Barbarossa BEFORE world saw it begin.
Finland was a German (essentially Nazi) ally BEFORE the Sugust, 1939 deal between Hitler and Stalin.
Finland wanted Russian territory before the Hitler/Stalin deal.
And the area East Karelia was always Russian territory.
Ethnic Finns only recently arrived there, and it was not due to Finns fighting Russia. Finns were fighting someone else, when there was a migration to the land.
You are a westerner who brings all types of prejudice into every storyline. You are not alone in distorting history.
You find MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH more "serious history" claiming Stalin wanted to make Finland a "Soviet Republic" (despite every single secret document showing that Stalin wanted Finland to be a democracy, and outside of Russia) than you will ever find slight references to the fact that Nazi German General Franz Halder was invited to Finland in June, 1939 to observe Finnish military maneuvers in the Karelian Isthmus.
Try finding any information, online, about Franz Halder having a relationship with Finland in 1939.
All historical obsessions start after the Winter War.
It is selective amnesia that massively affects your historical view.
There was no actual line of demarcation between 1938/39 Finland, and 1939/1940 Finland. No difference between June/July 1939 Poland and the Poland after August/December 1939 Poland.
Finland did not suddenly covet Russian land after the Winter War.
The Continuation War was a continuation of the 1938 Finnish designs.
The fact that Stalin defends Russia in the Winter War (1939 to 1940) has nothing to do with any action Finland took in 1941.
(Continuation War).

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Message 373 of 1124 (892930)
03-19-2022 6:48 PM


Wash Post: White supremacists - worldwide - traveling to join Ukrainian forces
Rita Katz, author, said this is the largest worldwide recruitment movement since the 2014 Islamic State's pull of worldwide volunteers, after declaring the Caliphate.
The mostly-western (duh) volunteers are looking forward to fighting the Russians, killing ethnic-Russian civilians, and exterminating Jewish individuals - wherever found.
The Ukrainian government's Azov Battalion has killed Roma in recent years.
Edited by LamarkNewAge, : No reason given.

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Message 375 of 1124 (892932)
03-19-2022 7:19 PM
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03-19-2022 6:54 PM


Re: Wash Post: White supremacists - worldwide - traveling to join Ukrainian forces
You cant use Google?
Rita Katz might be a smart set to type.
Another hint:
Washington Post.
So far:
"Rita Katz Washington Post"
Incase this does not work, there must be a fifth word that will help...
(No title was implied. No quotes. I never said such a thing. Everything in my title was in accordance with every gener as l standard practice)
Edited by LamarkNewAge, : No reason given.

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Message 376 of 1124 (892933)
03-19-2022 7:40 PM
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03-19-2022 6:54 PM


Re: Wash Post: White supremacists - worldwide - traveling to join Ukrainian forces
See:
Writing Effective Headlines - The University of Kansas
A colon can mean "said" after a source is named, but quotation marks will be used.
Without the quotation marks, one can paraphrase.
CNN used to always have a scrolling ribbon at bottom of screen, using the Source, Colon, Paraphrase headline. Decades ago.

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Message 378 of 1124 (892935)
03-19-2022 9:53 PM
Reply to: Message 377 by jar
03-19-2022 8:43 PM


Re: Wash Post: White supremacists - worldwide - traveling to join Ukrainian forces
And I paraphrased because the article used the *N word.
(I drift, at times, from wanting to quote the word, fyi)
I just found examples of a paraphrase, NBC used for an article, but won't bother.
I was almost ready to make a joke about the EvC crew growing a spine, and taking the journey to Ukraine to fight, but decided not to. Part of the reason I did not quote the actual article is that I saw at least one poster here talk about killing Russians.
Back to substance:
The subject is Ukraine's military, which very deliberately attacks civilians, and hates minorities.
This is clearly an evil government, we are dealing with, and it has openly "Neo *N" battalions.
Facebook lifted a ban on supporting the racist elements in the Ukranian military. Murderous racists are in vogue.
Ukraine's people have a history of supporting racist murderers when they take over the country. We saw that in the first half of the 1940s. It is sad. But true.

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Message 379 of 1124 (892936)
03-19-2022 9:59 PM


See Allan Ripp NBC article (NBC's own Source, Colin, Paraphrase on google) March 5.
Allan Ripp: Ukraine has a Nazi problem...
That is the Google headline with the Source, Colon, Paraphrase title.
NBC has a different headline, than the article title.
But my Washington Post article was written by Katz.
Jar wont respond to the substance of the factual Washington Post article.

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Message 381 of 1124 (892938)
03-19-2022 11:33 PM
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03-19-2022 10:11 PM


Re: Give us links to your sources!
People here celebrate the openly NEO NAZI Azov Battalion killing a Russian general.
The celebrations, of the EvC crew surely include the same Ukranian National Guard proudly releasing videos of Roma being attacked, with hateful verbal assaults by the soldiers.
Now that I said that, do I now need to link the Roma sites, that show the Ukranian government video?
It is not my job to document the Ukranian governments well-documented persecution.
Something well-documented is flat out documented.
Already documented. FULL STOP.

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Message 383 of 1124 (892940)
03-20-2022 12:35 AM


FBI CONFIRMS DEEP CONNECTIONS BETWEEN ALT-RIGHT AND UKRANIAN MILITARY.
The Radio Free Europe article, By Christopher Miller, is from Nov 14, 2018.
Azov, Ukraine's Most Prominent Ultranationalist Group, Sets Its Sights On U.S., Europe
The article, written in Kyev, covers a white supremacist meeting hosted by the International Secretary for the Ukranian National Guard battalion Azov,'s political wing.
Her name is Olena Semenyaka.
She hosted a large group of prominent white supremacist luminaries, including the organizers of the Unite The Right rally at Charlottesville.
She also hosted a California based extremist named Robert Rundo
KYIV -- Robert Rundo ... leader of a California-based white-supremacist group that refers to itself as the "premier MMA (mixed martial arts) club of the Alt-Right"
Rundo was involved in numerous attacks and it lead to an FBI investigation and arrest.
FBI special agent Scott Bierworth wrote that the Azov's military wing is " believed to have participated in training and radicalizing United States-based white supremacist organizations."
"We think globally"
Those were the words of Azov's International Secretary, Olena Semenyaka, from the summit she hosted in Kyev 3 years ago.
(Now her alt-right allies are being recruited to fight for the white supremacist cause in Ukraine)
Link coming to Katz's article, which Jar ignores.
Edited by LamarkNewAge, : No reason given.

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Message 387 of 1124 (892944)
03-20-2022 12:54 AM
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03-20-2022 12:48 AM


Re: Give us links to your sources!
The Alt-Right could not have said it better.
White power!
Damn those Roma!
"Go back to India"

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Message 408 of 1124 (892965)
03-20-2022 1:40 PM


The Ukranian military is the Mothership of the Alt-Right.
It is why the global Neo Nazi membership is rushing to join Ukraine's murderous forces to kill Roma and Jewish human beings.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Russia is defending the minority groups. SAME THING.
Ukraine has a nation & especially a military with powerful Neo Nazi divisions. SAME THING as old.
The NEW thing is that Ukraine is the last government on earth to have a Neo Nazi military.
The majority government of South Africa (the progressive African National Congress party) condemned the "unprecedented disinformation" coming from the western nations & the western press.
I will in no way support a bunch of murderous fascists.
The NAZI elements, of the Ukranian military, must be purged.
They are murderous thugs who are attracting every militant Alt Right racist in the entire Western world.
"We think Globally" was the statement of the Ukrainian Nazi National Guard Battalion Secretary. Ukraine says, get militantly involved to fight against Russia - all you white supremacists.
I support Russian efforts to remove the murderous "Nazis" from Ukraine.
DeNazification!
The whole non-white world stands against Neo Nazi fascism.

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Message 410 of 1124 (892967)
03-20-2022 2:27 PM
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03-20-2022 1:50 PM


Re: The Ukranian military is the Mothership of the Alt-Right.
I offered an FBI Special Agent quote earlier.
I repeatedly quoted the Secretary of the Ukranian National Guard Battalion.
That was during the preparation phase, years ago.
Now the global white supremacist militant movement is headed to Ukraine, to join the Neo Nazi Ukranian military guard.
That is the side the western powers support.
Humanity deserves a fighting side, also.
(Why should the white fascist side have its way in killing Jews, Roma, and ethnic Russians?)
(Why should the white supremacy western impetalists have a monopoly on force?)
Those of us who love humanity, in all of its varieties, deserve a chance.
Russia is all we seem to have going for us.
Russia says the Nazi forces will no longer be a part of Ukraine when the shots stop firing.
(The Alt Right is going to go to Ukraine, and die in Ukraine)
To Ukraine, with hate, goes the Alt-Right.
From Russia, comes bullets marked with the segregationist's western names.
The Ukranian military dips its bullets on pig fat to insult the Russian Muslims & Jewish individuals in the Russian military.
Russia understands that nothing is too gross for the Alt Right Neo Nazis. I say, just shoot the murderous fascists fighting in Ukraine. Then piss on their heads. Dont pee on the bullets you kill that anti-Semitic fascists with. Kill the fascists, then piss on them.

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Message 413 of 1124 (892970)
03-20-2022 2:46 PM
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03-20-2022 2:28 PM


Re: The Ukranian military is the Mothership of the Alt-Right.
Ukraine has been infiltrated by powerful western intelligence agencie operations.
The 4th President of Ukraine (2010-2014) has said as much.
He blames (his native) Ukraine's government for this war.
He was a man of peace who wanted to unify Ukranians "who fought on different sides" of World War 2.
He wanted peace between Eastern Ukraine and Western Ukraine.
Ukranians have been murdered by fascist thugs supported by western intelligence agencies and the western powers.
It is sad.
Very sad.

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