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Topic: Islamic jihad: the genocide in the Sudan
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jar
Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 37 of 203 (318665)
06-07-2006 9:17 AM
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Reply to: Message 34 by Jazzns
06-07-2006 8:56 AM
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Re: the sacred texts
Well, there were plenty of other Christians around the world who were not in Spain. Where was the massive united backlash that apparantly is required if a religion is supposed to renouce a part of it that goes crazy? Actually they were busy killing each other and expelling Jews. Oh yeah, and taking the wealth and property of those killed or expelled. short list of Jewish expulsions1217-1290 in England 1306 and 1394 in France 1348 and again in 1498 from Germany 1492 in Spain 1497 from Portugal 1349 and again in 1360 from Hungary 1421 from Austria 1445 and again fifty years later from Lithuania
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 55 of 203 (318735)
06-07-2006 12:13 PM
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Reply to: Message 54 by Faith
06-07-2006 12:07 PM
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Re: no true Muslim
Faith writes: "Slay a Jew wherever you find him" is very clearly not a call to DEFENSIVE action. And that is from exactly which verse in the Qur'an?
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 63 of 203 (318756)
06-07-2006 12:51 PM
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Reply to: Message 62 by Faith
06-07-2006 12:46 PM
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Re: no true Muslim
Still waiting for a response to Message 55. In addition, you have not provided any evidence that there is not a moral equivalency between Islam and Christianity. Do you have such evidence?
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 65 of 203 (318764)
06-07-2006 12:56 PM
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Reply to: Message 64 by Faith
06-07-2006 12:53 PM
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Re: no true Muslim
Faith writes: The evidence is in the texts themselves as I said. So you have asserted, but we still waiting for a response to Message 55.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 86 of 203 (318909)
06-07-2006 8:36 PM
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Reply to: Message 85 by Faith
06-07-2006 8:24 PM
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We keep asking you for that, and so far you haven't supplied it.
Faith yet again writes: You aren't looking at the TEXTS of Islam. And we still are waiting for a response to Message 55. Which texts are you using? Which Sura and Verses? Where in the Qur'an did you find the verse you quoted when you wrote
Faith writes: "Slay a Jew wherever you find him" is very clearly not a call to DEFENSIVE action.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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I just don't think that it has nothing to do with the religion. The terrorists are muslims and are making that well known, it has to have something to do with their religion. So terrorists are muslim?
Do you remember the incident seen above?
How about this one?
or this one?
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 125 of 203 (319174)
06-08-2006 3:49 PM
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Reply to: Message 124 by Faith
06-08-2006 3:45 PM
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Still waiting Faith
Still waiting for a response to Message 55
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 139 of 203 (319486)
06-09-2006 9:46 AM
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Reply to: Message 136 by Faith
06-09-2006 8:22 AM
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still waiting for you to support your assertion or retract it.
Can you get around to answering Message 55? You keep asserting that the Qur'an is a call to violence, you even provided a specific quote, but so far have totally failed to back up your specific quote. Is this just another example of you misrepresenting stuff or is this actually one that you will support. In Message 54 Faith wrote:
"Slay a Jew wherever you find him" is very clearly not a call to DEFENSIVE action. We are now near the mid point of this thread and you still have not supported your assertion.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 136 by Faith, posted 06-09-2006 8:22 AM | | Faith has replied |
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jar
Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 157 of 203 (319744)
06-09-2006 9:36 PM
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Reply to: Message 156 by Buzsaw
06-09-2006 9:32 PM
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Re: Big Difference.
Those who do violence are not Biblical Christians and are doctrinally false. What about those Biblical Christians who incite or call for violence? Are they doctrinally false?
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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jar
Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 161 of 203 (319778)
06-09-2006 10:13 PM
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Reply to: Message 159 by Buzsaw
06-09-2006 10:08 PM
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Re: Big Difference.
buz writes: Those who do violence are not Biblical Christians and are doctrinally false. to which jar asked:
What about those Biblical Christians who incite or call for violence? Are they doctrinally false? which buz evaded answering by posting
buz writes: What constitutes inciting violence is another topic and I'm sure you're as fussy about topic in other threads as you are your own. Specifically when a Biblical Christian, Pat Robertson or some other Biblical Christian suggests that people should be killed, are they doctrinally false?
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 159 by Buzsaw, posted 06-09-2006 10:08 PM | | Buzsaw has replied |
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jar
Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 162 of 203 (319780)
06-09-2006 10:16 PM
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Reply to: Message 160 by randman
06-09-2006 10:11 PM
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Re: Big Difference.
Well, so far no one has been able to show what caused the violence in the Sudan. I keep hoping you are actually going to look at what is happening there, the history of the conflict, instead of just ranting about Islam. Doesn't seem to be happening.
...but while we are talking, can this be blamed on the West as well? As well as what?
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 160 by randman, posted 06-09-2006 10:11 PM | | randman has replied |
| Replies to this message: | | | Message 163 by randman, posted 06-09-2006 10:19 PM | | jar has replied |
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jar
Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 164 of 203 (319785)
06-09-2006 10:21 PM
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Reply to: Message 163 by randman
06-09-2006 10:19 PM
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Re: Big Difference.
As well as what?
Islamic expansion and domination is the most plausible explanation as that is indeed the stated policy of the jihad. Convert to Islam or face extermination. And your support for that is?
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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