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Isaac
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Message 153 of 203 (319729)
06-09-2006 9:07 PM
Reply to: Message 152 by Buzsaw
06-09-2006 8:57 PM


Re: Big Difference.
I suspect you also dismiss the revelance of the the numerous brutalities commited in the name of Christianity, and also the fact that the Christian world has had ample experience in conquering and subjugating large parts of the world (puts Islam to shame frankly in this repect).
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Isaac
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Message 171 of 203 (319818)
06-09-2006 11:33 PM
Reply to: Message 169 by randman
06-09-2006 11:08 PM


Re: Sharia
I think you are whitewashing the essential character of Islam, which means submission.
I don't think he's doing any such thing I'm a Muslim and I agree with a lot of what he says. The core message of Islam is "Submission to God", it doesn't insinuate that all non believers should be forcefully subjugated or whatever else you might be implying there.
Islam is a highly legalistic religion with great emphasis on Shar ia and applying Islamic law to people.
It must be highlighted that there are hugely different interpretations of Sharia. There is no concensus.
There's not a lot of room in there for the kind of Western liberties many Americans believe or believed are universal.
One could say the same about many other religions. Christianity before the reformation wasn't much different to Islam today. Your comments are ironic though in light of the attack on secularism by the Christian right in America.
It would be great if Islam could see a reform within itself so that it could be harmonious with the truths our forefathers held to be self-evident, but that's not happened yet, and may never happen. Islam has some real stumbling blocks within it that are hard to get around.
I remain hopeful. Islam is no different than any other religion. I personally endorse a liberal reformation of Islam, and while I may be in the minority these kind of changes don't happen overnight.
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Isaac
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Message 174 of 203 (319842)
06-10-2006 12:54 AM
Reply to: Message 172 by randman
06-09-2006 11:42 PM


Re: Sharia
So what would happen if a man whipped out his Bible or maybe the Vedic scriptures in Egypt or Saudi Arabia and some Muslims started converting to the religion of their own choosing?
You made an interesting reply
Catholicism was not much different. Christianity, on the other hand, was always different........
Shades of a No True Scotsman fallacy, but it works to both our advantages.
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