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What Is The Positive Evidence For Atheism?

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Message 26 of 301 (435641)
11-22-2007 8:14 AM

Reply to: Message 24 by Dr Adequate
11-22-2007 8:00 AM

What came first? God or Dirt?

Dr.A writes:

You're asking for the positive evidence for the nonexistence of something?

I think what he means is the idea that there was eternally existing matter in some form without need of a Creator.

Why does eternally existing matter make more sense than an uncaused first cause? (One of the usual explanations for God)

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Message 33 of 301 (435668)
11-22-2007 10:40 AM

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11-22-2007 10:24 AM

Re: What came first? God or Dirt?

Jar writes:

What makes you think that matter always existed?

Do you have any positive evidence that matter always existed?

No, but folk always ask the question, "How did something come from nothing?"

I suppose that what you are asserting is that the most honest answer is simply that we don't know.

This whole idea of not knowing really bothers me.

I think that many people feel that they have to be believers simply because they feel uncomfortable not knowing.

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Message 67 of 301 (435808)
11-23-2007 2:54 AM

Reply to: Message 49 by Jon
11-22-2007 3:46 PM

Re: What came first? God or Dirt?

Jon with the wind writes:

Um... but if you make up your answer, you don't know it just as much as you didn't know it before you made up your answer.

How would we ever know that an answer was real or imaginary? not everything in life is measurable or quantifiable.....some things cannot be quantified rationally.