Israel/Lebanon/Gaza conflict (continuation thread)

Yes, you so asserted. But that is also simply not a sufficient justification. Just because one side might "likely use the emergency equipment to move war supplies et al" does not justify Israel bombing ambulances.

Cowards launch their rockets from civilian locations drawing fire to the target. They know that Israel's rockets hone in on the Hezbollah launch sight very accurately. Cowards fire rockets indiscriminately into civilian targets purposely hoping to kill as many as possible. Fortunately they are not accurate but do kill and destroy.

Like the Israelis who blew up a civillian convoy.

Canadian General: UN Observer Post Used By Hizballah Retired Canadian Major General Lewis Mackenzie was interviewed on CBC radio, and had some very interesting news about the UN observer post hit by Israeli shells; the Canadian peacekeeper killed there had previously emailed Mackenzie telling him that Hizballah was using their post as cover. (Hat tip: Isadore.)

The tragedy was the UN observers kept radioing the Israelis letting them know that they had missed so that the Israels could continue their murder attempts until they succeeded and it took awhile. They kept firing until they killed them. Clearly that was their callous
intent. They should be charged with deliberate murder of those canadians. Murder in cold blood planned out. And they made attempt after attempt until they succeeded. Disgusting.

I'm on dial up. I'm listening to it right now. I hear a few words like, "we recognise Isreal"... then a long pause of 5 to 6 sec. and then I get 4 more words.

From the brief blurb on the webpage you linked it appeared he was saying he had reports that Hezbollah fighters were operating very close to the observers position in order to shield themselves. How does that justify artillery fire knowing you are endangering the UN observers?

At first overshadowed by Israel's stunning victory, the attack on the Liberty was destined to become a recurring source of tension between Israel and the United States. Although Israel apologized for the attack and paid compensation to its victims, many American officials rejected Israel's claim that the Liberty incident had been an honest mistake. Rather, they blamed Israel for what was at best inexcusable negligence, or at worst the premeditated murder of American servicemen. Such charges persisted in the face of successive inquiries by a broad range of American agencies and Congressional committees, as well as a full Israeli court of inquiry, all of which found no proof whatsoever that Israel knowingly attacked an American ship. On the contrary, the evidence produced by these investigations lent further support to Israel's claim that its decision to attack was, given the circumstances, a reasonable error.

Israel's official position remains to this day that the attack was an accident, claiming that it was assured by the United States that no U.S. ships were in the area. Israel has also claimed that its air and naval forces mistakenly identified Liberty as the Egyptian vessel El Quseir. Proponents of the accident explanation add that mistakes were inevitable in the tense atmosphere of the Six-Day War, and that no concrete motive existed for Israel to initiate a surprise attack against a country that was quickly becoming its most powerful and important ally.Others claim that the attack was premeditated and deliberate; they note, among other things, that the Liberty was more than twice as large as the El Quseir, and was clearly designated with Latin rather than Arabic letters and numbers. Proponents of deliberate attack theory include the surviving Liberty crewmen, [1] and some former U.S. government officials, including then-CIA director Richard Helms and then-Secretary of State Dean Rusk as well as Admiral Thomas Hinman Moorer, former Chief of Naval Operations and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.The United States and Israel exchanged diplomatic notes after several inquiries. Though the United States never officially accepted the Israeli explanation, it agreed to accept indemnities of $13 million, for damage and casualties.

None of Israel's accusers can explain why Israel would deliberately attack an American ship at a time when the United States was Israel's only friend and supporter in the world. Confusion in a long line of communications, which occurred in a tense atmosphere on both the American and Israeli sides (five messages from the Joint Chiefs of Staff for the ship to remain at least 25 miles ” the last four said 100 miles ” off the Egyptian coast arrived after the attack was over) is a more probable explanation....In 1987, McNamara repeated his belief that the attack was a mistake, telling a caller on the “Larry King Show” that he had seen nothing in the 20 years since to change his mind that there had been no “coverup.”9In January 2004, the State Department held a conference on the Liberty incident and also released new documents, including CIA memos dated June 13 and June 21, 1967, that say that Israel did not know it was striking an American vessel. The historian for the National Security Agency, David Hatch, said the available evidence "strongly suggested" Israel did not know it was attacking a U.S. ship. Two former U.S. officials, Ernest Castle, the United States Naval Attache at the U.S. Embassy in Tel Aviv in June 1967, who received the first report of the attack from Israel, and John Hadden, then CIA Chief of Station in Tel Aviv, also agreed with the assessment that the attack on the Liberty was a mistake.10The new documents do not shed any light on the mystery of what the ship was doing in the area or why Israel was not informed about its presence. The evidence suggests the ship was not spying on Israel.

Most conspiracies hang together by a belabored psycho-social paranoid analysis. The conspiracy theory that Israel's attack on the USS Liberty in 1967 was "intentional" is a slanderous fabrication.There are always those who will believe these conspiracy theories because they want to, because they have prejudices which make them vulnerable to these false allegations and no amount of logic or denial will ever convince them otherwise. This essay is not for them.This lie about Israel being intentionaly culpable for the death of Americans is nothing less than a continued slander of a whole people.

Israel has turned down a mediated ceasefire.

The thing I don't understand is why Israel bombed so much of Lebanon's infrastructure. Now, if they bombed Damascus, that'd be perfectly legitimate, imo, or Tehran.

Lately Israel's gov seems to be under so much pressure they've been driven mad. Driving Israelis from their farms in Gaza, giving them to Hamas, and then destroying Gaza makes no sense whatsoever.

Nor does it make sense to destroy lebanon, imo.