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Author Topic:   What makes a terrorist a terrorist?
RAZD
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Message 49 of 300 (334145)
07-21-2006 10:31 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by Faith
07-21-2006 9:50 PM


I still like my basic definition, somewhat modified: Terrorists are ideological highwaymen. Criminals.
They theoretically could be romantic defenders of some great principle, such as ...
... get your invasion out of my country?
I concur that the behavior is criminal, but I also think they consider the reason (by whatever ideology is involved - religion, anarchy, freedom, ... etc.) justifies the action, and this needs to be recognized.
To deal with the terrorist you need to (1) treat the individuals as criminals, to be found, brought to justice, convicted (when guilty) by police action not military, and (2) deal with the ideology that generates new terrorists (especially if it is based on injustice or discrimination of people).
If you remove the cause of people becoming terrorists, the supply WILL dry up. If you can neutralize the ideological argument, either by accomodation or by some practical alternative, then it can't be used to draw new people to a {glory cause} based on it.
England ended the terrorism of the IRA by dealing with the causes of people becoming terrorists there.
Isreal hasn't done this (they two-step it, forward and back), nor has Botch in Iraq\Afghanistan, so continued {military} action creates more new terrorists than it kills: it's both {too blunt and indiscriminate} a weapon and it doesn't {solve} the problem.

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RAZD
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Message 50 of 300 (334147)
07-21-2006 10:33 PM
Reply to: Message 48 by berberry
07-21-2006 10:13 PM


I also wonder who fought in the wars if it wasn't individuals ...

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RAZD
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Message 60 of 300 (334237)
07-22-2006 9:14 AM
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07-21-2006 10:53 PM


Israel can't remove the cause of the terrorism ...
So you {conclude\concede\admit} that ultimately Israel will always have terrorism or it will be defeated by terrorism -- that it cannot win?
Conversely,
... it's motivated by religioideological hatred of Israel.
How does this render it impossible to remove?

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