egotheistic pantheism revealed...

i just have to. at a later point I'll bring up some serious stuff. but for now, the humor: so God was plagiarizing when he created the universe? News to me. Always thought he was the "original", the "alpha" (and omega, but that's a different story). If he's THE first, how can he not be original?oops.

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you know, another person on this board (Herepton, aka Ray) had a very similar phrase. Except, if you disagreed with him it proved he was right. In my opinion, he's a touch crazy, and not just for that phrase of his. I know you're not Ray Martinez, but you're quite close at times, especially with that.Oh, by the way, law of non-contradiction isn't violated. pretty basic. see, one of the many paths to God is that there is only one path to God. And I'm not twisting anything here, or bending my mind. so a religion that does say there are many paths to God (or even unlimited) isn't exclusive, because the exclusive nature of the single path is but one of the many paths.oops.[ABE]
i'm including this now so as to not take up any more precious property in this thread--there is a middle ground. That comment you made in the OP, that as surely there's a hell there's no middle ground is invalidated by hell. You believe in Heaven and Hell, no? Hell is where we go if we fail to be saved, whatever that actually means. So we don't start in Heaven (the place the saved go), or in Hell (because we haven't been graded yet). And then there's the purgatory for many christians, which from what I gather is the trial that determines your grade after you die. The ancient greeks had three different places to go after death--a hell, a heaven, and then a place for common folk. There is plenty of middle ground, Rob, regardless of whether or not you see it.one last note, to jar:
topos by the USGS are pretty damn accurate, so long as your not dealing with ones that haven't been updated since the 50s or 70s.
but then, i get the feeling we're not talking about the same maps
(i'm no good with emoticons . . .)

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No. No. No. Need I say it again? NO!!
Quit misrepresenting it.the whole point of relativity is not that you can get away with doing whatever you want, but recognizing that what I find to be wrong and right differ from what you find to be wrong and right. You can still follow your own mores, whatever they happen to be. I just can't make an absolute statement as to their "correctness", because my own mores aren't absolute.This doesn't stop me from thinking that what you may have done is wrong. I still can, and so can you. I need only realize that you'll disagree because you've a different set of mores you think right.Keep in mind, this still doesn't free you to do "whatever you want"--you are allowed to follow YOUR mores.And I may get suspended for this, but what kind of person are you, who needs an absolute thing in order to have mores? Can you not think for your self? Or do you need someone holding your hand, because otherwise you might be a "base" person? Of course, with all your quoting, I'd have to say you do need someone to hold your hand, that you can't think on your own. In other words, you are at best a timid, little person who has to be told what to do, and you gladly do such because you cannot escape the box you live in, and cannot imagine escaping the box, nor have a desire to. You are the very person dictators rely on to hold on to their power, you are the very person that allows atrocities to be committed because you afraid to think on your own--if your "leader" says its okay, you'd do it, or approve of it.Here's a challenge for you--don't quote Lewis, the Ravi, or any of the Bible. Speak your own damn mind for once. And I don't mean in your little banter with others--I mean the next time you feel the need to post a sermon or some other significant post where you're trying to get a point across (your's just tend to be sermons)

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wait, so you now you're the Black Knight who refused to give up, regardless that he'd lost all limbs (except head)?He was funny too. Funnier still, King Arthur got arrested by the british police of the 20th century.Not only do you scare, you confuse Rob. All we can do is laugh at your inneffectiveness and your sincerity and your refusal to realize your failure. Funny, and very tragic. How Bushish. Good think you don't hold the lives of this country in your hands.

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