Spotting Beretta's "designer" {Now only 1 summation message per member}

Oh yeah?Prove it. Please present to us your proof of this, as it relates to everything.You are once again making sweeping universal statements, without a hint of doubt or tentativity, from a position of ignorance.Did you not learn your lesson with your "All Earth's creatures have two eyes." rubbish?

---

Mutate and Survive

The burden of proof is not on me. Your argument presupposes that all things with a beginning require a cause. This may or may not be true. If your argument rests upon this statement, it is up to you to prove it.You can not unequivocally say whether all things with a beginning require a cause or not. There may be an exception that you and I are both unaware of. You are making an unwarranted assumption. This is pretty ironic given that you are extremely critical of "assumptions" within the ToE (although you are rarely specific about what these assumptions are).It seems that making assumptions is fine for you, but unacceptable for anyone else. Hypocrisy at all Beretta? Yes!! That is exactly what I'm saying. Neither you, nor I, nor anyone else can know everything. That is exactly why universal statements such as "Everything which has a beginning has a cause" or "All Earth's creatures have two eyes" can never be made in the absolutely authoritative way in which you seek to use the statement about causes.Just as when you made the statement about eyes and later found an exception that falsified your rule, there may be an exception that falsifies your rule about causes. The fact that your initial premise is unverifiable reduces your argument to pure speculation, exactly what you are so critical of yourself.By the way, this; is nonsense. I am surprised that you have been on this forum for so long without picking up a bit more about how science operates. Theories are not promoted to facts when they garner enough evidence. Theories explain facts.

---

Mutate and Survive

But this is a bogus analogy. I have seen people painting paintings. I have many examples of how a person can get some paints and create a painting, therefore it is not much of a leap of logic to assume that other paintings were painted by human artists.I have never seen a God creating a universe. Arguing by analogy in this way is a doomed effort, since by definition we can only ever use, as an analogy for the universe, a tiny part thereof. No analogy is ever going to provide a good enough fit to give us a useful insight.Regarding the Realplayer business, did you restart your computer? You might need to do that before it lets you download videos.Edited by Granny Magda, : Darn typo.

---

Mutate and Survive

You don't seem to understand what is being asked of you. So what if evolution can't explain the Cambrian? Even if we accept that as being true, along with all the other anti-evolution gripes in your post, none of it constitutes positive evidence for creation by a designer. Just because evolution is false it does not follow that design is the answer.Design is not the default explanation in case of evolutionary failure. There could be other explanations. Maybe we were created by accident by the machine elves from the other side. Maybe life always existed in its current form, or maybe we really were created by the Biblical God. The only sensible way to choose between these explanations is to provide some positive evidence for one of them, not just whining about rival theories.Say we set up two rival statements;i; pi=1
ii; pi=5Say I manage to prove that pi is absolutely not equal to 5. Does that prove that pi is 1? Of course not, both statements are wrong. This is the mistake you keep making. Evolution=false does not mean creation=true, especially if you are only talking about your favoured version of creationism, the Biblical one. Perhaps. Perhaps it was the machine elves. This thread is asking you to provide more positive evidence for your Bible ID hypothesis than I have for the machine elf hypothesis. No matter how many pot shots you take at evolution, none of them are going to provide that kind of evidence.

---

Mutate and Survive

Why indeed?

---

Mutate and Survive