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New Cat's Eye
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Message 145 of 305 (371532)
12-22-2006 12:46 AM
Reply to: Message 143 by jar
12-21-2006 12:24 PM


Re: If you have evidence now is the time to bring it forward.
If ever we were to reach a consensus, I think the Golden Rule would be the maxim of all maxim's.
I agree that it is a great Maxim, but it is not an Absolute. For example, it has two parts, and how you treat others depends on how you would like to be treated.
That's hardly an example, IMO.
But yeah on the no absolutes.
WRT the golden rule: If you, yourself, did not want to be treated like you treat others, would you then NOT treat others as you would have them treat you?
Remember, relative morals can still be powerful and at a very high level.
But never absolute

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 146 of 305 (371534)
12-22-2006 12:53 AM
Reply to: Message 80 by Hyroglyphx
12-20-2006 3:41 AM


Re: The semi-hidden moral reality...
But to deny the existence of absolutes seems odd to me.
How can anything be absolute? I mean, like, really absolute.
Don't get me wrong, I believe in an absolute morality, but not because its logically possible or because there are actual examples of it. The only thing I can can back it up with is good ol' Goddidit.

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 154 of 305 (371570)
12-22-2006 8:35 AM
Reply to: Message 147 by Taz
12-22-2006 1:48 AM


Golden but not Absolute
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WRT the golden rule
What about masochists?
My point exactly. If it was absolutely morally wrong to NOT follow the golden rule, then a masochist, as a person who wants others to hurt him, who did not want to hurt others would be morally wrong for NOT following the golden rule and NOT hurting others, but if he didn't want others to treat him as he wants them to treat him in the first place, is he even bound by the golden rule? He must be for it to be absolute, but then he can never follow it so its not absolute anyways.
I'm not even gonna re-read that so I mght've maken a mistake somewhere in there, I dunno.

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New Cat's Eye
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Message 155 of 305 (371571)
12-22-2006 8:42 AM
Reply to: Message 148 by Brian
12-22-2006 3:10 AM


Re: The semi-hidden moral reality...
I believe in an absolute morality, but not because its logically possible or because there are actual examples of it. The only thing I can can back it up with is good ol' Goddidit.
I certianly hope you aren't taking Yahweh as an example of absolute morality!
No, not necessarily. Just an omnipotent god, in general. They could have an absolute morality even if we couldn't come up with an example and found it logically impossible, becuase, due to their omnipotence, they could have anything.
I see where you're going with Yahweh, though...

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