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rueh Member (Idle past 3956 days) Posts: 382 From: universal city tx Joined:
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JT writes: I would predict that you would see an example of centrifugal force where the inertia of the rotating sponge is applied to the water. You could also predict that the drops of water closer to the sponge would have a higher velocity than the drops of water further from the sponge. However this is exactly opposite of the galactic rotation curves that have been observed. Instead observation shows that the velocity of stars in spiral galaxies remain fairly constant regardless of the distance from the center bulge. That is why your sponge stick model fails in comparison to actual observations. It is also one of the problems that lead physicists to consider that there is additional mass evenly distributed throughout the galaxy that later became known as dark matter.
I have done the experiment. Let me see if I can a pix added in. In the mean time, it is clear that you have not done the experiment. What do you predict you will see?JT writes: Sorry but that is just wrong. You can dream up all the thought experiments you want but the only way to model the observations is through the use of math. Instead of decrying knowledge you should instead be embracing it. It is the only known cure for ignorance. To understand the universe is to understand the nature of gravity, magnetic's and light, not math.'Qui non intelligit, aut taceat, aut discat' The mind is like a parachute. It only works when it is open.-FZ The industrial revolution, flipped a bitch on evolution.-NOFX It takes all kinds to make a mess- Benjamin Hoff
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rueh Member (Idle past 3956 days) Posts: 382 From: universal city tx Joined:
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JT writes: Right and that's why I explained what you would see. I even linked to pages that eplained why you would see what I described and to pages of what has been observed in actual galaxies. Would you like to respond to the errors of your experiment that I addressed? I wrote, what do thnik you will see?'Qui non intelligit, aut taceat, aut discat' The mind is like a parachute. It only works when it is open.-FZ The industrial revolution, flipped a bitch on evolution.-NOFX It takes all kinds to make a mess- Benjamin Hoff
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rueh Member (Idle past 3956 days) Posts: 382 From: universal city tx Joined:
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JT writes: And in my opinion therein lies the problem. You don't have a clue about the science you critisize. You haven't ever bothered to learn. Yet you want others to accept your thoughts born out of ignorance. In my original reply to you I linked to other pages that explain the observations and science behind centrifugal force, which is what your sponge experiment is modeling and the real worlds observations for galactic rotational curves for what your experiment is supposed to model. Here are those links again.
Sorry, I do not understand what you are talking about.Centrifugal force Galactic rotation curve My advise is that you take the time to learn something first and you should be able to see where your experiment fails.ABE: Here is graph of the velocity of stars vs. the distance from the center of the galaxy. Edited by rueh, : Graph and explanation'Qui non intelligit, aut taceat, aut discat' The mind is like a parachute. It only works when it is open.-FZ The industrial revolution, flipped a bitch on evolution.-NOFX It takes all kinds to make a mess- Benjamin Hoff
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rueh Member (Idle past 3956 days) Posts: 382 From: universal city tx Joined:
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jt writes: No one has denied that. These black holes just do not play the role that you suggest. No where in your article does it offer any credence to the argument as you have presented it.
It is suggested that this link is proof SMBH’s play a fundamental role in the creation of the universe. jt writes: Why go? No one accepted your ideas here either. I forgot to say bye bye! I am off to discuss this where new theories are usually not accepted.'Qui non intelligit, aut taceat, aut discat' The mind is like a parachute. It only works when it is open.-FZ The industrial revolution, flipped a bitch on evolution.-NOFX It takes all kinds to make a mess- Benjamin Hoff
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rueh Member (Idle past 3956 days) Posts: 382 From: universal city tx Joined: |
percy writes: Of course. Just thought I would have a little fun with him since by his actions he is not here to have an actual discussion. Though I think he will find that anywhere he goes his ideas will be met with scrutiny and critisizm. The way that they should be. If his ideas had any merit than they and he should be able to weather that scrutiny. You can see how well that has gone so far though. Something tells me he will instead choose to go to a creation site where every one can pat his ass and tell him how right he is. Even though they are all as clueless as he. I think JT misspoke and actually intended to say that he was going where new theories are not *rejected*.'Qui non intelligit, aut taceat, aut discat' The mind is like a parachute. It only works when it is open.-FZ The industrial revolution, flipped a bitch on evolution.-NOFX It takes all kinds to make a mess- Benjamin Hoff
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rueh Member (Idle past 3956 days) Posts: 382 From: universal city tx Joined:
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jt writes: Then that totaly defeats your idea. You claim that the Earth was formed by being ejected from the Sun. However, particles ejected from the Sun were found to be different than what we find here on Earth. Then the Earth could not have been born from an ejecta from the Sun. If your idea had any merit, then we should see that particles that we know have been ejected from the Sun match particles here on Earth.
Basically the article explains that ejecta from the sun captured by a space probe and returned to earth showed that the particles were slightly different from similar particles on the earth and other planets and asteroids. jt writes: No your conclusion is refuted by the article. At any rate, my conlusion is supported by this paragraph in the article.'Qui non intelligit, aut taceat, aut discat' The mind is like a parachute. It only works when it is open.-FZ The industrial revolution, flipped a bitch on evolution.-NOFX It takes all kinds to make a mess- Benjamin Hoff
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rueh Member (Idle past 3956 days) Posts: 382 From: universal city tx Joined: |
Do you have any intention on addressing the errors that have already been brought up regarding your ideas? Or are you just going to continue to throw shit against the wall and see what sticks?
JT writes: Ok so we can make a prediction from this. If true than any planet that has a magnetic field should have the hottest spot at the poles. To scientists, the hottest place on such a planet would be the side facing the star.Under my theory, a hot spot on a planet found near its host star would be the point where the planet had magnetic forces flowing through it before it was ejected from its host star. This explains the nature of magnetic poles of planets and sunspots. Sunspots mostly come in North and South poles. This is why planets, once ejected from their host star, have magnetic poles. 'Qui non intelligit, aut taceat, aut discat' The mind is like a parachute. It only works when it is open.-FZ The industrial revolution, flipped a bitch on evolution.-NOFX It takes all kinds to make a mess- Benjamin Hoff
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rueh Member (Idle past 3956 days) Posts: 382 From: universal city tx Joined:
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jt writes: Your own source contradicts what you are saying. From The universe today's website. (The same website that you posted your links from.) "Just how old is Mercury? Is it the oldest planet, or the youngest? Actually, you might be surprised to know that there is no oldest or youngest planet. Mercury is exactly the same age as all the rest of the planets in the Solar System: approximately 4.6 billion years old" Do you even bother to read the stuff you post? If these ages are accurate, from this information, it can be concluded that the Sun is the oldest object in our solar system and that the Earth is younger than Mars and the earth is younger than the asteroid belt. This is consistent with the predictions based on my theory.'Qui non intelligit, aut taceat, aut discat' The mind is like a parachute. It only works when it is open.-FZ The industrial revolution, flipped a bitch on evolution.-NOFX It takes all kinds to make a mess- Benjamin Hoff
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