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$100The military has been getting reindoctrinated bit by bit.

I wasn't clear enough. It's lefties who stir up the mob, sometimes even import them into the town to burn things down. Individual politics in such a mob is no doubt generic lefty, however, because only a lefty would think it a good thing to burn down businesses in response to a false charge of racism against the cops.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I didn't answer your second question, How would we recognize if America is America or not. Yes I do already think there have been huge changes in the cultural scene in America so that to an extent it's already not America to me, but for the sake of the wager I'd say that even you will be able to recognize the changes in five years and not think they are a good thing.ABE: This idea that conservatives object to having a black President is offensive. I have to admit that I have been shocked to meet a couple of people in the last few years who object to Obama on racist grounds, but most of us object to Obama because he's a Marxist who is dismantling the nation. As for race there are three or four black guys I'd be happy to have as President myself: Alan Keyes, Allen West, Ben Carson.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Faith writes: I have no idea how you got the notion that the lefties would import violence into a peace march. It's the Right Wingers who do that. All the folks on the left deplore the rioting. I have no idea how you got so misinformed.

Faith makes a list: 1. Economic Collapse - certainly a fault of the short-sighted Corporatists running country, if it happens (elect a Republican in 2016, and this looks more likely)2. Takeover by foreigners / spread of Sharia Law / more beheadings - this is a Right Wing effect, not left wing.3. Rioting and destruction provoked by Leftists - you have misidentified the embedded rioters as leftists, rather than Right Wingers.4. Military or something like SS troops, running things - right down the agenda of the most batshit Right Wingers.5. Possibly Ebola - this is really not left/right, you say "possibly" and then wish to blame the left if it should occur. Dismiss this.6. Let me add Nazification. A room full of Nazi paraphernalia was found in an American mosque recently. In Brazil, which of course isn't the US but I take it as a harbinger, a utility bill was sent out saying "Be a patriot, Kill a Jew." I think anti-Semitism is going to rise here, due mostly to Islam. Rioting is one of their tactics too. They've been burning down Marseille for some time now. I don't see anything to stop it from coming here, thanks to Political Correctness.- but the leftists are the most vehemently anti-Nazi group in the USA. It's the right wingnuts that are neo-Nazis. So this is incorrectly attributed to leftists.7. There could be a right wing uprising in all this too of course, but I think the lefties have the firepower to overcome it.- but it is the right wingnuts walking around with open carry in stores, is the right wingnuts who stand down the Federal agents at the Bundy Ranch. It is the right wingnuts who build bunkers full of weapons. The lefties would get massacred head-to-head.8. Yes Political Correctness. That's the engine of our destruction, Political Correctness backed up by violence.- PC really doesn't have traction in the demise of a country. It's more of a namby-pamby liberal thing than a lefty thing. And some of it is good. It is certainly not Politically Correct for a white to address a black with the n-word.

While it may be true that each individual case is unclear on whether racism was a contributing factor, it is impossible to ignore the overwhelming statistics of the whole picture. I am thinking of the gas law of pressure against a wall. While each individual molecule may not be directed against the wall, there is a measurable collective pressure against it.Edited by xongsmith, : No reason given.

Just follow up on my other reply to Faith: It's the embedded rightwingers that cause the riots.

Well, I'm the one betting on it. You want to throw in your own bet?

Can't tell a thing from the picture. You are doing the interpreting. How would I know what it means?

Then it sounds like you are making the argument that simply because the cops are white and the victims black the cause is racism. This seems to be an idea some have, that keeps floating around in the discussion without quite being stated, and it's what led me to propose that we should not have white cops dealing with black neighborhoods IF THIS IS REALLY THE CONCLUSION we should come to. But also I don't know what you mean by "overwhelming statistics of the whole picture." The cases we are discussing or some other "whole picture?" Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Lol!!At least the racists are correct about Obama being of African descent.

Sharpton is a leftie. He's one of those who was inciting the riots. The stepfather of Michael Brown is the one who said "burn this bitch down." These are not right wingers. Some reported that there were signs threatening people who talked to the cops in the Michael Brown case. This is the same mentality.Why would right wingers want to burn down towns on account of supposed racism by white cops?Again, you put up that picture and tell us it's a right winger inciting a riot. When and where, over what cause, and who is he really and how can you expect anyone to know what to make of such a picture?

Bill Ayers.

Something like SS troops includes foreign troops which some say are already on American soil. They are employed by the government. They are not right wing.If Ebola is a factor in the destruction of the nation it will be because of Political Correctness which refuses to prevent infected people from entering the country.If Islam is a factor in the destruction of the nation it likewise will be due to the Political Correctness which has refused to recognize it as a violent ideology. Nazism that comes through Islam isn't exactly right or left wing, it's just murderous ideology, and Islam has always aligned itself with the Nazis. I don't think the anti-Semitism in Brazil is related to Islam, though, more probably to the Nazis who were given safe haven there after WWII.Neo Nazis have nothing to do with conservatives, which is how I'm using the term Right wing here.Political Correctness is an incredibly destructive ideology, nothing "namby-pamby" about it. It's behind Multiculturalism which is giving the homicidal "religion" of Islam freedom to build up their power base here in America just as they have been doing in Europe, which is farther down the road to destruction than we are. The cry of "racism" is the incitement to rioting, trumped up in these recent cases, and calling someone "homophobic" goes with destroying Christian businesses.As for who has the most firepower, I'm thinking of the reports over the last few years of various federal agencies acquiring weapons and ammunition.

Sharpton is left leaning, yes. What did Al Sharpton do to incite a riot? Don't know his politics, but yes, he is black. I wonder what his opinion is on the deficit or whether he is pro-abortion. Or is it simply that holding the opinion he holds on the death of his son makes him a leftie?Michael Brown lost his child. I don't expect him to be as objective about that as the rest of us.