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Author Topic:   Exposing the evolution theory. Part 2
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Message 62 of 294 (844809)
12-05-2018 2:56 PM
Reply to: Message 45 by Porkncheese
12-05-2018 4:31 AM


Re: Survey
Porkncheese writes:

100 scientists were surveyed and asked
What are the chances of ToE being completely correct?
Answers varied from 0% to 100%


I would hope that no scientist thinks ToE is 100% correct. What would be the point of continuing to study it if we already understood it completely?

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Message 85 of 294 (847288)
01-20-2019 1:37 PM
Reply to: Message 82 by WookieeB
01-20-2019 1:09 AM


Re: Thread Copied from Proposed New Topics Forum
Microwalking is walking from the living room to the mailbox. Macrowalking is walking from New York to San Francisco. The process of walking is the same in both cases.

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Message 94 of 294 (847405)
01-22-2019 11:13 AM
Reply to: Message 87 by WookieeB
01-21-2019 7:14 PM


Re: Thread Copied from Proposed New Topics Forum
WookieeB writes:

That is a pretty broad definition of evolution. If it is simply change over generations, I don't think anyone would disagree with it....


Creationists don't disagree with evolution because of definitions or facts or logic. They disagree because they're anti-science. You may be too young to remember but creationists used to deny microevolution. I've even heard creationists say that dinosaurs never existed. They've been in headlong retreat from reality for decades and it doesn't look like they'll ever run out of ways to deny science.

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Message 97 of 294 (847415)
01-22-2019 12:30 PM
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01-22-2019 12:16 PM


Re: Thread Copied from Proposed New Topics Forum
WookieeB writes:

Many pro-ID people would not consider themselves "Creationinsts"...


Google "cdesign proponentsists".

WookieeB writes:

... please provide an example of how they are anti-science...


In Message 92 you said:
quote:
ID has no issue with definitions 1-4, is somewhat agnostic on 5, and rejects the validity of 6.
where point #6 was:
quote:
6. “Blind watchmaker” thesis: the idea that all organisms have descended
from common ancestors solely through an unguided, unintelligent,
purposeless, material processes such as natural selection acting on random variations or mutations; that the mechanisms of natural selection,
random variation and mutation, and perhaps other similarly naturalistic
mechanisms, are completely sufficient to account for the appearance of
design in living organisms.
If ID rejects what science concludes, that is anti-science.

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Message 125 of 294 (847469)
01-23-2019 11:20 AM
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01-22-2019 1:37 PM


Re: Thread Copied from Proposed New Topics Forum
WookieeB writes:

cdesign proponentsists ≠creationist, unless you are now saying the term is limited to some old books change of terms between versions.


"cdesign proponentsists" exposes the lie that creationists and IDists are different. All they did was (try to) change " creationist" to "design proponent". Nothing else in the book was changed.

WookieeB writes:

But SCIENCE doesn't necessarily conclude that an unguided, unintelligent process is 'sufficient to account for the appearance of design in living organisms'


Yes it does. There is no controversy in science about evolution.

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Message 170 of 294 (847689)
01-25-2019 12:21 PM
Reply to: Message 169 by WookieeB
01-25-2019 11:57 AM


Re: Thread Copied from Proposed New Topics Forum
WookieeB writes:

It's also referred to as the Chewbacca defense, which is really offensive to me if you couldn't tell by my username.


This isn't a jury trial, so the Chewbacca defense doesn't apply.

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Message 177 of 294 (847764)
01-26-2019 11:05 AM
Reply to: Message 173 by WookieeB
01-25-2019 6:32 PM


Re: Thread Copied from Proposed New Topics Forum
WookieeB writes:

I got this from a little letter signed by 38 Nobel Laureates to the Kansas State Board of Education....


You're shooting yourself in the foot, trying to support your position by quoting scientists who disagree with you.

When you get on an airplane, do you go up to the cockpit and tell the pilot he's flying all wrong?


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Message 231 of 294 (848484)
02-06-2019 3:13 PM
Reply to: Message 230 by WookieeB
02-06-2019 3:04 PM


WookieeB writes:

I asked how the word "selection", which by definition implies doing something, applies to the term 'Natural Selection" when you claim that 'Natural Selection' doesn't do anything.


The word "selection" is modified by the word "natural". The "selection" is a result of "natural" events. The slowest zebras are the ones that get eaten first. It is a "natural" coincidence that the fast-zebra genes are preserved.

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Message 268 of 294 (849065)
02-23-2019 10:49 AM
Reply to: Message 261 by AZPaul3
02-22-2019 4:45 PM


Re: Older never responded to message
AZPaul3 writes:

The new wrinkle this time is to hold your deity at arms length from the processes so as to not offend the court too directly.


I wonder if their insecure God is offended by their denial of Him.

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