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JonF
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Message 364 of 953 (858650)
07-22-2019 2:35 PM
Reply to: Message 352 by JonF
07-22-2019 10:06 AM


Re: Almost a caricature
Yeah, you love Catholics and Muslims and Episcopalians and liberals.
Oh, wait...
You abhor them.
Nothing to say? I understand.

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JonF
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Message 375 of 953 (859032)
07-27-2019 11:58 AM


Trump confirms the 2020 theme is overt racism
Trump blistered for bigoted attack on Elijah Cummings: ‘It’s not even veiled racism’
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On Saturday, President Donald Trump blasted House Oversight Chairman Elijah Cummings (D-MD) for criticizing his border patrol policy, blasting his home district in Baltimore as a disgusting, rat and rodent infested mess and a very dangerous & filthy place where no human being would want to live and suggesting it should be stripped of federal funding. Cummings’ district is actually above average in median income and education, but over 59 percent of its population is black, as is Cummings himself, so naturally Trump would assume it is filthy and impoverished.

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JonF
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Message 379 of 953 (859045)
07-27-2019 1:59 PM
Reply to: Message 375 by JonF
07-27-2019 11:58 AM


Re: Trump confirms the 2020 theme is overt racism
Edited by JonF, : No reason given.

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JonF
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Message 386 of 953 (859414)
07-31-2019 2:52 PM
Reply to: Message 385 by Faith
07-31-2019 2:39 PM


Re: Krugman on "American carnage"
You know who gets to decide what's racist? Non-whites.
quote:
Trump began talking negatively about Cummings and Baltimore in a series of tweets on July 27. In a Quinnipiac University poll conducted from July 25 to July 28 -- two days before the tweets, the day of the tweets, and one day after the tweets -- Trump had a 6% approval rating and 84% disapproval rating with black voters. Eighty percent of black voters said Trump is racist, while just 11% said he is not.
A Fox News poll conducted from July 21 to July 23 had Trump at 75% disapproval among black registered voters, with 22% approval. In a Washington Post/ABC News poll conducted June 28 to July 1, 81% of African Americans said they disapproved; 18% approved. Both of those approval numbers were substantially better than the one in the new Quinnipiac poll, but still: On the whole, large majorities of African Americans were displeased with him

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JonF
Member (Idle past 197 days)
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Message 397 of 953 (859476)
07-31-2019 7:40 PM
Reply to: Message 393 by Faith
07-31-2019 6:28 PM


Re: Krugman on "American carnage"
Cummings didn't say anything to which Trump responded. Trump attacked Cummings because Cummings just got subpoena power.
Yeah, blacks are too stupid to think for themselves. They only get liberal media? Did it ever occur to you to question why they can't find your sources? Or maybe they find them and figure out what they are?
Go on believing the polls are all wrong. That's wonderful for us.
Edited by JonF, : No reason given.

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JonF
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Message 430 of 953 (859561)
08-01-2019 1:37 PM
Reply to: Message 418 by Faith
08-01-2019 1:05 PM


Re: Krugman on "American carnage"
You know who gets to decide what's racist? Non-whites.
quote:
Trump began talking negatively about Cummings and Baltimore in a series of tweets on July 27. In a Quinnipiac University poll conducted from July 25 to July 28 -- two days before the tweets, the day of the tweets, and one day after the tweets -- Trump had a 6% approval rating and 84% disapproval rating with black voters. Eighty percent of black voters said Trump is racist, while just 11% said he is not.
A Fox News poll conducted from July 21 to July 23 had Trump at 75% disapproval among black registered voters, with 22% approval. In a Washington Post/ABC News poll conducted June 28 to July 1, 81% of African Americans said they disapproved; 18% approved. Both of those approval numbers were substantially better than the one in the new Quinnipiac poll, but still: On the whole, large majorities of African Americans were displeased with him

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JonF
Member (Idle past 197 days)
Posts: 6174
Joined: 06-23-2003


Message 432 of 953 (859563)
08-01-2019 1:41 PM
Reply to: Message 429 by Faith
08-01-2019 1:30 PM


Re: Krugman on "American carnage"
Some of Baltimore is a rat-infested hell hole. Some of it is seriously upscale. Much of it is in between.
I'll name them againj: Elijah Cummings himslef said so, so did the previous mayor of Baltimore, and so did Bernie Sanders.
Quotes, please.

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JonF
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Message 433 of 953 (859564)
08-01-2019 1:45 PM
Reply to: Message 431 by AZPaul3
08-01-2019 1:37 PM


Re: Krugman on "American carnage"
Actually none of Kushner's properties are in Cummings' district.

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JonF
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Message 441 of 953 (859584)
08-01-2019 5:31 PM
Reply to: Message 440 by Chiroptera
08-01-2019 5:11 PM


Re: Krugman on "American carnage"
And arguably the most racist of Americans, white supremacists, see him as one of them.

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JonF
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Posts: 6174
Joined: 06-23-2003


Message 458 of 953 (859670)
08-02-2019 12:51 PM
Reply to: Message 452 by Faith
08-02-2019 12:35 PM


Re: TRUMP IS NOT A RACIST
Why do you hate our Constitution so?
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

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JonF
Member (Idle past 197 days)
Posts: 6174
Joined: 06-23-2003


Message 463 of 953 (859685)
08-02-2019 1:15 PM
Reply to: Message 459 by Faith
08-02-2019 12:53 PM


Re: TRUMP IS NOT A RACIST
Freedom of speech, as demonstrated by mocking the President, is a leftist perversion? You really do hate the Constitution.

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JonF
Member (Idle past 197 days)
Posts: 6174
Joined: 06-23-2003


Message 466 of 953 (859704)
08-02-2019 1:44 PM
Reply to: Message 465 by Faith
08-02-2019 1:17 PM


Re: TRUMP IS NOT A RACIST
Not necessarily. Especially when it attacks a public figure. And, of course, demonstrating that the attack is true is a perfect defense.
quote:
In the context of defamation actions (libel and slander) as well as invasion of privacy, a public figure cannot succeed in a lawsuit on incorrect harmful statements in the United States unless there is proof that the writer or publisher acted with actual malice by knowing the falsity or by reckless disregard for the truth.[2] The legal burden of proof in defamation actions is thus higher in the case of a public figure than in the case of an ordinary person.
It appears to me from researching this that character assassination is not criminal. I wasn't able to find a definitive statement, but everything I found spoke only of civil action.
Good luck proving that an obvious joke is libel.

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JonF
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Posts: 6174
Joined: 06-23-2003


Message 467 of 953 (859706)
08-02-2019 1:47 PM
Reply to: Message 464 by Faith
08-02-2019 1:17 PM


Re: TRUMP IS NOT A RACIST
Every statement that follows a logical pattern is right, of course.
Not if the premise is untrue. Trump is a racist according to those who should know;non-whites and white supremacists.
Of course the rest of your message does not follow any logical pattern.

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JonF
Member (Idle past 197 days)
Posts: 6174
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Message 495 of 953 (859903)
08-04-2019 1:43 PM
Reply to: Message 494 by Hyroglyphx
08-04-2019 1:32 PM


Re: Krugman on "American carnage"
He summarized enough of the link.

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JonF
Member (Idle past 197 days)
Posts: 6174
Joined: 06-23-2003


Message 500 of 953 (859928)
08-04-2019 4:28 PM
Reply to: Message 499 by Faith
08-04-2019 4:04 PM


Re: New Hampshire also "infested" according to Trump
Yes. Being racist doesn't mean you can never attack whites, only that you do so very rarely. There he was just being a lying asshole. New Hampshire and many other areas have drug problems, but not the entire state.

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