Testing The Christian Apologists

The overwhelming majority of believers are introduced to their belief by the culture they're born into.The rest are infected by cultural invasion.There is no recorded example of someone catching Christianity independently.To believe in Jesus, some human has to introduce him. Religion is a meme.

Agreed. Which only asserts that cultural teaching originates in its own environment.
I would use the word influenced rather than infected. We are talking of a good and Holy Spirit and not Typhoid Fever. Invalid conclusion. There are lots of examples never recorded. All that we can surmise is that people catch "God" through Christ, or through those who knew Christ. Nobody except Christ "knew" God independently, though it can be argued that Christ never was independent of God. That's how the whole story began. Correct. Christ must "live" in the person doing the introduction.True. Or an invention of the mind. What we need to determine is which category Christianity falls under. A creation at some point in the mind of a storyteller or a meme passed from Creator to Son to Disciples to more disciples, etc.Edited by Thugpreacha, : No reason given.Edited by Thugpreacha, : No reason given.Edited by Thugpreacha, : No reason given.

I have no idea what the purpose of the change of the color text serves. I do find it irritating and difficult to read.This may be a good thing though. I won't waste my time reading what you write I guess.

Does that mean anything? If so what? If they're not recorded how do you know? Cobblers. Kids are indoctrinated by the culture they're born into. Both, obviously.

I've noticed that the more bonkers the believer is, the more he resorts to weird formats and colours.

It is impossible for both to be true. Either the stories were made up or they actually happened. I believe that they happened. You don't.

oh shush. the only things you remember were the bells and smells.I'll edit it for the benefit of those with poor eyesight.

That's what it's for.

Ah. I missed the capital C in creator.Obviously the stories were created by people. Adam and Eve, Arks, floods etc etc - all obvious myths.

It isn't black and white. Any one story can contain truth, exaggeration, embellishment AND bold-faced lies, all at the same time.

And now he has switched it to bold text. I fear Phat has now gone completely right wing fundie nutcase.

. Even I don't want that!

This is your world view. We don't view the bible as we do any normal book. You, of course, are free to do so. After all, you don't believe Jesus existed or that God chose to communicate with humanity. For all I know, you don't even believe in God. I reject your evidence and your conclusions. Your secular humanist belief in evidence and reality being set in stone is noted, considered, and rejected. You can claim that that view is the standard, but believers never will acknowledge your conclusions.The very fact that you conclude that its all made up shows me that you are not getting it.

Once again you are simply posting really silly stuff.Many believers, even Bishops in actual recognized Chapters of Club Christian acknowledge that reality and evidence trump beliefs and fantasy.

I know. Keep in mind, however, that there are many beliefs and many varieties of believers. While it may be true that I don't speak for believers, I DO speak to those who share my basic beliefs. Belief may be relative as a concept, but truth is, in my opinion, absolute. Not relative. Not culturally unique. Truth is truth. Period. And when Truth meets reality and evidence, there will inevitably be a conclusion. I may not legally speak for "believers" but you do not speak for reality nor evidence. That jury is still out.