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Abortion is not legally murder. That is the heart of the arguement. Attempts to use a religious point of view to change the legal definitions involved. A fertilized single cell is not currently defined as a human being. Murder is a specific form of killing a human being. Therefore abortion is not currently defined as being murder.

Legalities are exactly the issue. Murder is a legal term. Killing a human being is *not* always murder.As for your common sense; if I use a condom and stop a cell from being fertilized I have killed a soon-to-be human. Is that also murder? (The catholic church seems to have it part way along that road. )

In other words, I don't believe you until I believe you. Not a very useful tactic in arguing a point. Not if you actually expect to make much progress anyway. lol

You are then:
1) An opponent of the death penalty for any crimes whatsoever.
2) Do not support any military actions at all.
3) Would not support the administration of a pain killer if it may cross over the line and kill a terminally ill patient in extreme pain.For you have defined all of this as murder.And, no, stopping an unfertilized ovum from developing into a child isn't "exactly" the same as stopping a fertilized one but it is very close. Why do you draw the line between when the ovum and sperm have joined and when they are simply "good friends". "God" himself sees fit to "murder" about half of all fertilized ova if my memory of spontaneous abortion statistics is correct.

I'm not too keen on any abortions. It is a poor form of birth control by anyone's standards. The alternative in too many cases is worse is all.Oddly, there seems to be some correlation between those who oppose abortion and those who oppose sex education. I think there may be not better way to reduce abortions than good sex education.

No, as I noted, some significant fraction of them will not. As god seems to will it to be.

Thank you, it sounds like you are 'partially' consistent then.
However, you say a military shouldn't be needed. That is not the same as not supporting military actions. Do you consider those actions to be murder too? Your death penalty position is consistent. We'll leave the pain killer one in limbo then.

OH! Why isn't there a notification of that? Is it because he's back to being prophecyexlained?

Crazy Zealot?Nope, I don't think so. I think we all understand your position and it is one that I can see one getting to.You do not seem to be able to understand our position though. Most of us are NOT pro-abortion. It is way down the list of options we would like to see utilized. Our differences with you probably stem from one small little tiny detail . That is we don't think there is a soul, nothing magic happens when the ovum is fertilzed. That is simply one step on a whole chain of steps that have to unfold properly before there is something we would define as a human being is there. Those differences (no soul, no special significance to the fertilization) are what makes it harder for us to pick a hard and fast line. We may not like abortion as a solution to these problems but we see it as a lessor evil even is still "evil" in that it is physically, financially and most of all can be emotionally expensive.To summarize, I don't see a "soul" being suddenly deposited in a body. Whatever we would call a "soul" (and we probably differ on that) it isn't turned on all of a sudden. It developes just as the body does.