Ken you dont need to worry about any of these guys and gals I have come across here. Just stick to the facts, that's all one needs do-
I believe I have mentioned this before But I have not followed out the consequences for a formal debate
Abraham Pais 'Subtle is the Lord' Chapter 29 OF TENSORS AND A HEARING AID AND MANY OTHER THINGS:EINSTEIN'S COLLABORATORS p484 NUMBER TwO.
"Walter Ritz. b.1878, Sion Switzerland. Phd in Goettingen with Voigt, 1902. Privatdozen in Goettigen from 1908, the year in which he discovered the combination principle for line spectra. Ritz did not accept special relativity, but rather believed in the need to give up the notion of field described by partial differential equations (see 9P2), Sec.3). Ritz and Einstein published on very breif joint paper, written in April 1909. I strech the notion of collaboration by including it, since it is a tersly phrased joint communique' in which both men state what they have agreed to differ on. The issue was whether advanced and retarted solutions of the electromagnetic field equations are both admissible tyopes of solutions. 'Ritz considers the restriction to the...retarded potentials as one of the roots of the second law (of thermodynamics), whereas Einstein believes that the irreversibility rests excluisvely on probability grounds'."
I would not call the posters here "retarded" biological cross level effect potentials in this sense (where Gould INSISTS on things) but I dont mind applying it to what seems to me a confusion of process and body in Pias or my own member (you name the part).