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Author Topic:   Young earth creationism is valid and the macroevolutionary hypothesis is not valid
Cold Foreign Object 
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Message 9 of 316 (89819)
03-02-2004 3:16 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by kendemyer
03-02-2004 1:01 PM


There are eons and eons of time between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2
This puts your young earth nonsense out of business.
God said "replenish" the Earth, not "plenish".

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Message 35 of 316 (89915)
03-02-2004 9:15 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by kendemyer
03-02-2004 5:12 PM


Why have you completely ignored the fact that there are eons and eons of time between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2.
Your young earth creationism is nonsense. You are an accomplished rhetorician, misusing logic to support dogma.
You need to substantiate a young earth from the Bible - or shut up.

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Message 38 of 316 (89925)
03-02-2004 10:44 PM
Reply to: Message 36 by kendemyer
03-02-2004 9:50 PM


You lean towards a short span of time between Gen. 1:1 and 1:2 based upon the context of chapter 1.
Why don't you set the context ?
Ken, you are an amateur Bible student feigning gnosis in an area that no one knows for sure. One thing is clear, based upon irrefutable scientific evidence - the Earth is very very old.
In the literal hebrew of Gen. 1:2, it says "the earth became a waste and a desolation".
The point being is that the Earth went through some type of upheaval caused by its previous initial inhabitants. Scripture and science are congruent when they conclude an old Earth.
There is no basis to minimize the gap between 1:1 and 1:2. You and I both know that you brought a previously decided subjective belief into this debate, and based upon your commentary it is confirmed.
Your young earth creationism feeds a hillbilly stereotype of christianity. You want a young earth because it affirms a dogmatic belief that you and your kind have already spoken up for.
Concerning your last paragraph :
Where is your evidence for Mesopotamia being the place man originated from ? Are you speaking of the Garden of Eden ?
I could point you to a host of books that say Atlantis.

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Message 79 of 316 (90165)
03-03-2004 9:26 PM
Reply to: Message 40 by kendemyer
03-03-2004 1:02 PM


Your juvenile style of tit for tat is mindless subterfuge, where is some type of plausible rationale from the Bible for a young Earth ?
Young Earth Creationism (YEC) is the product of dogma based upon traditional belief in the 7000 year history cap, it is also a reaction of fear to the claims of macro-evolution.
The Bible indicates nothing about a young Earth except when handled by amateurs. The eons and eons of time between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2 are rightfully deduced/adduced from the massive amount of physical evidence contained in the Earth.
The pre-historic animal kingdom is a fact. God tells us that a 1000 years to Him is like a day.
YEC is the black box of creationism, I am just plain tired of doing penance for your damnable use of scripture. You may fool certain science types who do not know the Bible, but if you want to learn the real arguments against evolution, then go to the Evolution category and Wj's topic that bears my name. Read my arguments Ken and abandon YEC.

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Message 97 of 316 (90384)
03-04-2004 8:13 PM
Reply to: Message 79 by Cold Foreign Object
03-03-2004 9:26 PM


"you see no reason to continue" the discussion with me. This is what you said further back.
I challenge you to present, from the Bible, a plausible rationale for a young Earth.
You really want nothing to do with someone who knows the Bible. You are afraid of being exposed.
Ken, post your rationale for a young Earth from the Bible or change the name of this topic.
I do not understand why the active debaters in this room have let you get away with this young Earth nonsense.
There are no abrasive words in this post, which eliminates your requirement of civility (in a Free For All room), now a sweet sensitive guy like yourself has no excuses.

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Message 103 of 316 (90394)
03-04-2004 9:08 PM
Reply to: Message 98 by wj
03-04-2004 8:23 PM


Me too, only if my long pending demand (post 97) is also included.
I am in.

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Message 105 of 316 (90406)
03-04-2004 10:16 PM
Reply to: Message 99 by NosyNed
03-04-2004 8:32 PM


Would you please close my topic "Message of the Bible"
It seems to of run its course.
Thank you.
(I didn't think this non sequitor would hurt the flow of this debate)

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