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frako
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Message 131 of 221 (597207)
12-20-2010 11:41 AM


I have a few contradictions

God tempts no one.

James 1:13- Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:

God does tempt!

Genesis 22:1- And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham, and said unto him, Abraham: and he said, Behold, here I am.

And why would Jesus ask this, if God tempts no one?

Matthew 6:13- And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

Whatever you do, don't make graven images

Exodus 20:4- Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

Deuteronomy 4:23- Take heed unto yourselves, lest ye forget the covenant of the LORD your God, which he made with you, and make you a graven image, or the likeness of any thing, which the LORD thy God hath forbidden thee.

But let me tell you the proper way to make some graven images.

Exodus 25:18- And thou shalt make two cherubims of gold, of beaten work shalt thou make them, in the two ends of the mercy seat.

Exodus 25:19- And make one cherub on the one end, and the other cherub on the other end: even of the mercy seat shall ye make the cherubims on the two ends thereof.

Exodus 25:20- And the cherubims shall stretch forth their wings on high, covering the mercy seat with their wings, and their faces shall look one to another; toward the mercy seat shall the faces of the cherubims be.

Psalms 58:10- The righteous shall rejoice when he seeth the vengeance: he shall wash his feet in the blood of the wicked

Proverbs 24:17- Rejoice not when thine enemy falleth, and let not thine heart be glad when he stumbleth:

Ezra 2:6- The children of Pahathmoab, of the children of Jeshua and Joab, two thousand eight hundred and twelve.

Nehemiah 7:11- The Children of Pahathmoab, of the children of Jeshua and Joab two thousand eight hundred and eighteen

2 Samuel 8:4- And David took from him a thousand chariots, and seven hundred horsemen, and twenty thousand footmen: and David houghed all the chariot horses, but reserved of them for an hundred chariots.

1 Chronicles 18:4- And David took from him a thousand chariots, and seven thousand horsemen, and twenty thousand footmen: David also houghed all the chariot horses, but reserved of them an hundred chariots.

And tones more


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frako
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Message 142 of 221 (597969)
12-26-2010 6:08 AM
Reply to: Message 140 by purpledawn
12-26-2010 5:38 AM


Re: Contradiction or Mistake
Just because the lists don't match, doesn't mean it's a contradiction.

First of all if the book was supposedly inspired by god one would expect that no such "mistakes" would be in it. You know all knowing all powerful god inspiring wrong numbers to a person kinda sounds strange dont you think unless you think only parts of the bible are inspired then i would politely ask you witch parts and how do you know ?

Secondly if i told you i have 7 children and after that i would tell you i have 6 children would those statements contradict each other i would say that they would. If i have 7 i have 7 children and not 6, and if i have 6 children i have 6 not 7.

And im not even going to respond to your latter post about carving and beating something in to shape lol.


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Message 144 of 221 (597975)
12-26-2010 7:58 AM
Reply to: Message 138 by purpledawn
12-25-2010 4:11 PM


Re: Graven Images
Per the Documentary Hypothesis, the Priestly writer wrote Exodus 20:4 and Exodus 25. Notice the cherubims are beaten or hammered work, not carved.

So if i hammer me a calf and worship it that is no ofence to your god. What if i hammer me a chest and say god is inside.

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

notice the part of any likeness of any thing in heaven or on erth, or under water or under the earth.

Clearly saying do not make any kind of image for any kind of worship.

the second clearly shows what item to make for worship, my guess is cherubims are clearly either from heaven above (angels).

Pecel, which is translated as graven image, refers to something carved and then worshiped. IOW, idols. It isn't referring to just anything carved for decoration or used in the worship of YHWH such as the cherubim.

Lol so tell me one nation ever that carved something and then worshiped that thing not the thing it represents.

Graven image refers to an idol carved in wood or stone that is worshiped as a god or in place of a god.

No cultures actually worshiped the statutes or the like, they worshiped what they represented, a many armed woman statue represented a Hindu god it was that god they worshiped not the statue. I think it is illogical to claim that your god wanted no one to worship a statute or idol because no one ever did. He wanted no idols at one point and then he wanted idols for him clear and simple.


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Message 145 of 221 (597976)
12-26-2010 8:06 AM
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12-26-2010 6:46 AM


Re: Contradiction or Mistake
1. This is the accuracy and inerrancy thread, not faith and belief. This is a science forum. Mistakes are not contradictions. Make up your mind which you are presenting.

Oh sorry my mistake i did not know that the book of a all knowing and all powerful god can have mistakes in it

What you presented were different authors. You didn't present one author contradicting previous information. There is a difference.

A so one claiming the number x
and the other claiming the number y is not a contradiction of information because clearly if one news channel reports 1000 dead people and the other 1 million none of them are wrong and no report contradicts the other. And both are still reliable news networks they just got their information differently one went out in the field the other made it up who is who does not matter and they are both reliable. And speak the true word of god or reality in this case.

Edited by frako, : No reason given.


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frako
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Message 146 of 221 (597977)
12-26-2010 8:09 AM
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12-26-2010 6:46 AM


Re: Contradiction or Mistake
OK since different numbers clearly are not a contradiction to you but a typo mistake or whatever what about. (makes you wander what else could be a typo in the bible thou shall not kill could have been mistyped and it could have spelled thou shall kill )

GE 22:1-12, DT 8:2 God tempts (tests) Abraham and Moses.
JG 2:22 God himself says that he does test (tempt).
1CO 10:13 Paul says that God controls the extent of our temptations.
JA 1:13 God tests (tempts) no one.

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frako
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Message 203 of 221 (604488)
02-12-2011 5:13 PM
Reply to: Message 202 by ringo
02-12-2011 5:03 PM


Re: thewordofgod describes a worthless god
You seem to be saying that God has to zap the enlightenment to understand it into you. If so, why doesn't he dispense with the Bible altogether and zap the information into you directly?

Cant you see he is a prophet chosen by god to be the sole man on erth that can understand the bible.

you dont question prophets you just believe!

Now go and praise Thor

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frako
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Message 213 of 221 (604506)
02-12-2011 6:45 PM
Reply to: Message 204 by thewordofgod
02-12-2011 5:49 PM


Re: thewordofgod describes a worthless god

It's always God who speaks through his saints but sinners don't believe it's him using my body.

OMG <---- coming from an Atheist

Seriously dude you think god is speaking trough you, may i seriously recommend you visit a psychiatrist.


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