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Author Topic:   Is anyone else fed up with Muslims complaining all the time?
Buzsaw
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Message 151 of 152 (353317)
09-30-2006 6:07 PM
Reply to: Message 53 by kuresu
09-19-2006 11:39 PM


kuresu writes:
sure, but then how do you justify the christian crusades during the middle ages? If christianity is supposedly so peaceful, then I don't think you want this nation to be labelled a christian nation. at least they have a religious justification--you don't.
(not that I'm saying that violence is the way all the time. sometimes it is--war against Hitler, for example. Other times, peace is the answer, such as the civil rights movement of the 60s)
I've always been equally as critical to the violent ideology and practices of the popes of Vatican City contrary to the nonviolent teachings and practices of Jesus and his desciples as I have to the violent ideology of Mohammed and his successors as justified in the Quran, the Hadith and Sunnahs.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28

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Message 152 of 152 (353399)
10-01-2006 6:01 AM
Reply to: Message 151 by Buzsaw
09-30-2006 6:07 PM


I've always been equally as critical to the violent ideology and practices of the popes of Vatican City contrary to the nonviolent teachings and practices of Jesus and his desciples as I have to the violent ideology of Mohammed and his successors as justified in the Quran, the Hadith and Sunnahs.
But you have always avoided being critical of the violent ideology and practices of people like Moses and King David as justified in the Old Testament, nor the violent ideology and practices of Jews or Protestants when appealing to those portions of scripture.
Its not like Xians just read the new testament and dismiss the old. They readily use justifications from the old testament which is about people in the exact same position as Mohammed was... trying to found a religion and place to live for his people.
Indeed you particularly avoid the point that Jesus, no matter how peaceful he might have been, found justification for his rule by directly appealing to his legacy from the much more lusty and violent figure of King David.
By the way, perhaps you can explain how building the modern state of Israel is justified? Perhaps you cen explain what you think its creation will ultimately entail for the world? No one is going to suffer or die in its creation, or after its creation fulfills a prophecy?
Where is the justification for the violence that is to occur?

holmes {in temp decloak from lurker mode}
"What a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away." (D.Bros)

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