Murder by prayer: When is enough, enough?

That's cold and irrational.It is cold because children do not deserve to die because of the stupid anti-science religious beliefs of their parents. It is murder, pure and simple.It is irrational because so called 'deeply religious' nuts, aka pro-disease sociopaths, are a threat to all people when it comes to communicable diseases and it is the absolute right of the state to end their desire to murder all in the name of a false god.The difference between such religious sociopaths and criminal sociopaths such as Manson's followers or Son of Sam, who also held a mentally ill concept of orders from a false god, is only the difference between a crime of passion and premeditated murder. In other words it should be treated as the difference between second degree murder vs first degree murder and should be up to the courts to determine which of the two is applicable. Edited by anglagard, : Add followers to Manson as it is Manson who claimed to be god, while it was often (but not exclusively) his followers who murdered in his name.

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Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis BaconThe more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza

I said you comment was cold, not false. Cute quips done in haste have a way of being used to turn around and bite us in the ass. One of my points is that such religious fanaticism is not necessarily a personal matter but rather most certainly becomes a societal matter in the case of communicable diseases. It is both irrational to murder by proxy and to condemn such as if, in some cases, it is an act that does not affect others.Of course, such off-hand lack of consideration for this point in some off-hand quip is by no means equivalent to second degree murder, but I still call irrational, even if meant largely in jest.Don't sweat it, most of us know you're cool and I really meant to bring up the point that such behavior on the anti-science crowd can be a threat to the public at large (I won't even start on the moral or ethical implications in this response). It was not actually meant as a criticism of your person but rather as a condemnation of such behavior as disgusts both of us, along with any other civilized person.Edited by anglagard, : mild it out, coyote is after all, an allyEdited by anglagard, : thesaurus

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Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider - Francis BaconThe more we understand particular things, the more we understand God - Spinoza

Well. if overpopulation is considered so great a threat that one must actively support post-birth abortions, I suggest becoming a supporter of neo-conservatism, as they support both war (except when it comes to their own hide) and poverty as a means to cull the herd.

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The idea of the sacred is quite simply one of the most conservative notions in any culture, because it seeks to turn other ideas - uncertainty, progress, change - into crimes.
Salman RushdieThis rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. - the character Rorschach in Watchmen