When does design become intelligent? (AS OF 8/2/10 - CLOSING COMMENTS ONLY)

Can these squiggles of yours say where thought began?

Neuroscience is going to be able to tell us where the first thought began? Surely you jest.Besides, I thought you could just do that with your magic math squiggles.

Virtual pairs is how the Big Bang came into being? Again you jest.But just the same, does you quantum theory also tell us that all matter comes into and goes out of being, or just some?

Thought always exited in another form, in the form of a spirit-that spirit simply lends it to others.It makes us much sense as you saying neuroscience will know where it began.

Wow, you want to call a discussion about differentiating between the different bits of matter on the universe 'sophomore salad" and you come up with this tripe appetizer?Things don't appear designed in the universe, because they are not the same as a Buick.We have a new standard of higher intelligence-General Motors.

Here we go with the improve the species through sickle cell argument. Its laughable if it weren't for the fact that so many evolutionists actually believe it is an example of natural selection in action.Sickle cell, amongst other things causes lung damage, pain, greater risk of strokes, damage to most organs, and reduced efficiency of the spleen, which leads to less disease resistance. Oh, and because the persons blood is so diseased, the malaria parasite can't attach to it.Also, did you know that people born with cerebral palsy rarely die from concussions caused by playing football, and people born with Down's syndrome almost never get shot by drug dealers for selling them bad weed?Your second argument is also specious because yes, we can predict about how long it would take to get a mutation to alter one protein that would make a particular bacteria resistant to a single drug treatment. The level of complexity need for a mutation can be calculated quite accurately these days, and we know about how many generations it would take for any simple protein change. And did you know by that same token, we also know EVERY mutation that will happen to a group of bacteria, because we have already lived through enough generations to have had every one that is going to happen. In other words, if the likelihood of any particular random mutation is 10 to the 12th power, we can tell pretty much exactly how long that would take to actually happen. And all of them already have. You know how we know this? By those squiggly things you write, you say others can't understand, called math.Because of this, we know that no matter how long these bacteria exist, they will never ever change from being a bacteria, to being something else, through random mutations. Edited by Bolder-dash, : No reason given.Edited by Bolder-dash, : No reason given.