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Faith
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Message 616 of 708 (801615)
03-08-2017 1:55 PM
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03-08-2017 1:07 PM


Re: More evidence of the horrors in Europe for you all to deny
You didn't see the Muslims climbing up the tree in the second shot? Shouldn't the destruction of two Christmas trees by Muslims tell you something about Muslims wanting to destroy Christmas trees? The pictures are clear, your hopeful counterevidence is just hearsay.
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jar
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Message 617 of 708 (801617)
03-08-2017 1:58 PM
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03-08-2017 1:55 PM


Re: More evidence of the horrors in Europe for you all to deny
Faith writes:

You didn't see the Muslims climbing up the tree in the second shot? Shouldn't the destruction of two Christmas trees by Muslims tell you something about Muslims wanting to destroy Christmas trees? The pictures are clear, your hopeful counterevidence is just hearsay.

Too funny. That is priceless Faith.

I bet the Christmas Trees quake in fear.

Edited by jar, : get the latest laughable quote from Faith.

Edited by jar, : fix the quotebox


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Faith
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Message 618 of 708 (801618)
03-08-2017 1:59 PM
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03-08-2017 1:58 PM


Re: More evidence of the horrors in Europe for you all to deny
Yes, I thought it was funny too.
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jar
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Message 619 of 708 (801620)
03-08-2017 2:01 PM
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03-08-2017 1:59 PM


Re: More evidence of the horrors in Europe for you all to deny
Sorry but it seems you replied while I was correcting which of your laughable quotes I was responding to.

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Message 620 of 708 (801627)
03-08-2017 2:08 PM
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03-08-2017 9:57 AM


More evidence of the right-wing Christian horrors in Europe for Faith to deny
So many good videos on the danger of right-wing Christianity. If you don't want to watch much, just two minutes and seventeen seconds should be enough to get it across.

This one shows violent right-wing Christians in Serbia disrupting a gay pride parade with rocks and bricks and smoke bombs.

I suppose I'll be amazed again at how Faith won't accept this as evidence -- just isolated instances involving a few or something like that? Even if there are hundreds of such videos about different events -- and attack me as the one at fault...Godzilla excoriating me as if I were the most evil person on earth for showing how dangerous right-wing Christianity is.


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Message 621 of 708 (801628)
03-08-2017 2:08 PM
Reply to: Message 612 by Faith
03-08-2017 9:57 AM


Re: More evidence of the horrors in Europe for you all to deny
Can I ask, even if any of this were true, why is this "The horrors in Europe". I mean if something happened in Uruguay I wouldn't call it "The crisis in America".
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Faith
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Message 622 of 708 (801632)
03-08-2017 2:21 PM
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03-08-2017 2:08 PM


Re: More evidence of the right-wing Christian horrors in Europe for Faith to deny
Leftists really have so little to say of any importance. I can always count on someone to come along and just imitate me, do a childish little "tu quoque." It's as predictable as the sun coming up in the East.

And it's part of the same mindlessness to claim equivalence where there is none; just as predictable.


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Faith
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Message 623 of 708 (801633)
03-08-2017 2:23 PM
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03-08-2017 2:08 PM


Re: More evidence of the horrors in Europe for you all to deny
Huh?
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Message 624 of 708 (801634)
03-08-2017 2:23 PM
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03-08-2017 2:21 PM


Re: More evidence of the right-wing Christian horrors in Europe for Faith to deny
And it's part of the same mindlessness to claim equivalence where there is none; just as predictable.

You're right; there is no equivalence. Muslims climbing Christmas trees isn't as much of a threat to people as right-wing Christians throwing rocks and smoke bombs during a gay pride march.


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caffeine
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Message 625 of 708 (801636)
03-08-2017 2:25 PM
Reply to: Message 616 by Faith
03-08-2017 1:55 PM


Re: More evidence of the horrors in Europe for you all to deny
You didn't see the Muslims climbing up the tree in the second shot? Shouldn't the destruction of two Christmas trees by Muslims tell you something about Muslims wanting to destroy Christmas trees? The pictures are clear, your hopeful counterevidence is just hearsay.

I thought they were decorating the tree. Not entirely clear what's going on in the second shot. I'm even less clear how you know their religion.

I didn't provide any counterevidence. I just looked around for accounts of people setting fire to Christmas trees. That's how I found out when and where it happened (the New Year's Eve before last). The car being pushed into the metro was also in Brussels and happened on the same night.

The third video I'm at a loss to interpret; but the Christmas tree seems to still be standing at the end.

I am at a loss as to how you consider imagery an argument, but actually finding out what's happening in the images is 'hearsay'.


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Faith
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Message 626 of 708 (801637)
03-08-2017 2:29 PM
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03-08-2017 2:25 PM


Re: More evidence of the horrors in Europe for you all to deny
The men climbing the tree in the second video are pulling things off it. The video identifies itself as being about Muslims. Brussels is in Europe is it not?

What third video?

Edited by Faith, : No reason given.


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Modulous
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Message 627 of 708 (801638)
03-08-2017 2:34 PM
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03-08-2017 9:57 AM


Re: More evidence of the horrors in Europe for you all to deny
even if there are hundreds of such videos about different events -- and attack me as the one at fault, Godzilla excoriating me as if I were the most evil person on earth for showing how dangerous Islam is.

Hundreds of videos.
10s of millions of Muslims.

We should be concerned?


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Son Goku
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Message 628 of 708 (801651)
03-08-2017 2:48 PM
Reply to: Message 623 by Faith
03-08-2017 2:23 PM


Re: More evidence of the horrors in Europe for you all to deny
What I mean is, I have noticed a tendency to lump all of Europe together as if it were some mega-county, when something happens in Norway, let's say, I'll often see right-wing American media outlets say it shows how "Europe is spiraling out of control".
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caffeine
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Message 629 of 708 (801654)
03-08-2017 2:56 PM
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03-08-2017 2:29 PM


Re: More evidence of the horrors in Europe for you all to deny
The men climbing the tree in the second video are pulling things off it. The video identifies itself as being about Muslims. Brussels is in Europe is it not?

What third video?

The video identifies itself as being about Muslims, yes; but that doesn't tell us anything about what's actually happening in the clips. Considering how sceptical you are when you're looking at something that contradicts your viewpoints you're remarkably trusting and credulous when something seems to support your view.

By 'third video' I mean 'third clip in that video'. The first clip is the car being pushed down the metro station in Antwerp, second is the Christmas tree being destroyed; the third is the guys climbing a Christmas tree somewhere.


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caffeine
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Message 630 of 708 (801655)
03-08-2017 3:00 PM
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03-08-2017 2:48 PM


Re: More evidence of the horrors in Europe for you all to deny
What I mean is, I have noticed a tendency to lump all of Europe together as if it were some mega-county, when something happens in Norway, let's say, I'll often see right-wing American media outlets say it shows how "Europe is spiraling out of control".

This is something engaged in by spouters of political rhetoric of all stripes in the US; whether it's lauding European social democracy or bemoaning the downfall oof European civilisation. The one that always makes me laugh is guns; since whenever people on both sides of the argument start talking about gun laws in Europe, they all seem blissfully unaware that Europe includes countries with veyr high and very low gun ownership; as well as countries with incredibly strict and with very lax gun laws. And yet they always sound very confident in what the 'European' way means.


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