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Author Topic:   Evolution has been Disproven
Juhrahnimo
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Message 144 of 301 (184329)
02-10-2005 1:36 AM
Reply to: Message 134 by pink sasquatch
02-10-2005 12:21 AM


so....
Back to my repeatedly ignored question (or line of questioning):
HOW did the RNA (rybozyme) develop this amazing capability? Simple question. Why ignore it?
Pink writes:
No higher information, no complex cellular machinery.
Um, are you disagreeing with me or with Quetzal? It was Quetzal who pointed out the term "machine", not me. I just referred to it:
Quetzal writes:
...even the modern ribosome has been considered to be fundamentally an RNA machine...
I doubt Quetzal would want me as his spokesman, so maybe you should explain the machine thing to him. Or when does "machine" not mean "machine"? Please remember that Quetzal was quoting from Zhang B, Cech TR, 1997 "Peptide bond formation by in vitro selected ribozymes", Nature 390:96-100, so Quetzal might not want to vouch for that information.

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Juhrahnimo
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Message 145 of 301 (184330)
02-10-2005 1:45 AM
Reply to: Message 142 by Nighttrain
02-10-2005 1:24 AM


Re: Yes,
That's correct. I don't know. And don't claim to. I "believe" God did it. Science just "believes" we can find a way to explain it WITHOUT GOD. Maybe we'll ask again in about 100 years or so.
I also believe intel makes CPUs. I don't know how, but I believe they do it. My buddy next door thinks he can prove that the chips made themselves over millions of years and intel just happened to find a bunch of them floating down the creek after a small earthquake shook things up a bit, and now they're taking all the credit. He's still conducting extensive research, though. He's expecting me to ask him about it again in 100 years or so.

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Juhrahnimo
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Message 159 of 301 (184454)
02-10-2005 6:14 PM
Reply to: Message 158 by Quetzal
02-10-2005 11:34 AM


(sigh)
My goodness, some folks seem to lash out in all directions, whether at friend or foe. That's kind of what I meant when I used the word "berserk" in an earlier post. So much for amino acids either making themselves, or being made by something else that made itself. Or was it made by something that was made by something, that was made by something else that made itself? Whatever. God is still God.

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