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PecosGeorge
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Message 78 of 301 (183940)
02-08-2005 12:47 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by Karl
09-11-2003 8:56 AM


quote:
Can anyone credit the fact we're still having to reply to uninformed crap like this?
Consider it a privilege. You snub your nose at a seeker of knowledge, you make an enemy you do not need. Rather, go gently into that dark night, and bring your light and not a sledgehammer.

"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
Hey, Albert, I agree!

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PecosGeorge
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Message 80 of 301 (183944)
02-08-2005 1:00 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by Percy
09-11-2003 9:13 AM


quote:
You have to picture evangelical Christianity as a vast factory continually churning out newly minted uninformed Creationists.
How utterly beneath the refined and educated mind. I know for fact, that full-fledged scientist do not fall from heaven.
[quote]What continues to surprise *me* is the consistency with which Creationists like defender reject the various explanations concerning things that are truly superficial or even orthogonal to the debate, such as that abiogenesis and evolution are different, though obviously related, theories, or that abiogenesis and spontaneous generation are not the same thing. If they're going to prove evolution impossible it won't be by refusing to understand the terminology.
--Percy

"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
Hey, Albert, I agree!

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PecosGeorge
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Message 82 of 301 (183946)
02-08-2005 1:01 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by Percy
09-11-2003 9:13 AM


quote:
You have to picture evangelical Christianity as a vast factory continually churning out newly minted uninformed Creationists.
How utterly beneath the refined and educated mind. I know for fact, that full-fledged scientist do not fall from heaven.
quote:
What continues to surprise *me* is the consistency with which Creationists like defender reject the various explanations concerning things that are truly superficial or even orthogonal to the debate, such as that abiogenesis and evolution are different, though obviously related, theories, or that abiogenesis and spontaneous generation are not the same thing. If they're going to prove evolution impossible it won't be by refusing to understand the terminology.
--Percy
If I were at this moment initiate to the subject of evolution, I would herewith refuse all possibilities.
Snobbery is costly.
You owe him an apology. If only to show that you allow for difference of belief, from conviction.

"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
Hey, Albert, I agree!

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PecosGeorge
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Message 83 of 301 (183947)
02-08-2005 1:03 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by Wounded King
09-11-2003 12:16 PM


quote:
But Percy, their lack of understanding is so basic to their belief system, don't try and take it away from them!!
arrogant snobbery. feel good?

"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
Hey, Albert, I agree!

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PecosGeorge
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Message 85 of 301 (183950)
02-08-2005 1:13 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by Dr Jack
09-18-2003 9:12 AM


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How that first life arose we don't know for sure.
in fact, you don't know it at all, which is what not knowing for sure actually is.
You think it is this and you think it is that, and then you come back again to thinking it is this. Much good luck in finding out for sure.

"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
Hey, Albert, I agree!

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PecosGeorge
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Posts: 863
From: Texas
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Message 88 of 301 (183954)
02-08-2005 1:34 PM
Reply to: Message 79 by NosyNed
02-08-2005 12:58 PM


Re: Seeker?
quote:
True enough if he is actually seeking.
However, there is ample opportunity to learn if one is really seeking.
Since we've seen posts of almost exactly the same content many, many times there is some chance to predict the outcome.
I'd say (no real data) about 80% of the posters are not seeking at all. They will show no signs that they even read the responses. They will either go away or simply restate the same thing several more times.
Thank you, Ned. You owe it to yourself and the listener, to say it again and again. Not just for the one who is asking, but also for yourselves. How many more aside from me are here to see how you deal?
And how many times did any number of things have to be told to you before you finally 'got them'? And how much has been told you over time and to this day, you still don't get it?
If you don't want the same materials over and over, kill 'em in proposed 'new' topics. Then you don't have to stoop to this kind of 'offender'.
This message has been edited by PecosGeorge, 02-08-2005 13:36 AM

"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
Hey, Albert, I agree!

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PecosGeorge
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Message 89 of 301 (183959)
02-08-2005 1:50 PM
Reply to: Message 84 by NosyNed
02-08-2005 1:12 PM


Re: uninformed
Would you like to engage in dialogue with a Bible scholar?
Would you like to engage in dialogue with a brain surgeon?
Would you like to engage in dialogue with an auto-mechanic?
Would you like to engage in dialogue with a professional cook?
I do not claim science as my forte, so your invitation is nonsense and you know it, and disrespectful at that. I do claim, however, that there are evangelicals who know science. That smattering here, to begin with.
Isn't the air rather thin up there on your high horse?

"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
Hey, Albert, I agree!

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PecosGeorge
Member (Idle past 6902 days)
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From: Texas
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Message 90 of 301 (183961)
02-08-2005 1:54 PM
Reply to: Message 86 by NosyNed
02-08-2005 1:25 PM


Re: Arrogance?
quote:
(you are right though that "for sure" is a silly thing to say.
thank you, Ned.

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PecosGeorge
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From: Texas
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Message 93 of 301 (183991)
02-08-2005 5:01 PM
Reply to: Message 92 by Percy
02-08-2005 3:18 PM


quote:
In other words, I was expressing my inability to understand why many Creationists reject even basic definitions.
Thanks for the composition, I appreciate your effort, but it does not ease my concerns about how creationists are viewed as somehow inferior, whether they understand science or not, whether they want to or not, and even whether or not they lay a dismal egg of ignorance. It is their affair, and if you do not wish to engage them in dialogue, you simply tell them, or don't promote their threads.
...as I am expressing my inability to understand why 'your kind' rejects Christianity/religion? Why is that?

"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
Hey, Albert, I agree!

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