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Topic: Evolution and Specialness of Humanity
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joshua221 
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Message 136 of 316 (251544)
10-13-2005 6:41 PM
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Reply to: Message 125 by nator
10-13-2005 8:42 AM
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Re: Uniqueness
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Should I stop admiring his ability because he inherited the potential from his ancestors?
He didn't.
I am smiling.
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jar
Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Re: Uniqueness
Why?
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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joshua221
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Message 138 of 316 (251547)
10-13-2005 6:52 PM
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Reply to: Message 127 by nator
10-13-2005 8:51 AM
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Re: Charlie, why won't you answer this question?
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Just a word of advice:
If you expect to do well in any decent Philosophy program at University, you really need to step up your logic and argumentation skills. You are in for a rude awakening.
Well now that you bring it up, I was thinking of sticking with my roots, and my Lord, take up some theology instead. Philosophy as a minor most likely. I don't know, I think you said that because my idea burns in your mind, it shows you that within the idea you choose to argue for and represent there is so much ugliness involved that simply doesn't exist. This, within the interactions supposed by the idea of human evolution. About your question regarding genetics, and natural selection, I know that these things exist as part of an imperfect world, but I do not believe that the social implications of evolution exist, therefore evolution does not exist.
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Do you accept the following facts?: 1) Organisms reproduce 2) The offspring are not genetically identical..
Yes
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3) Not all offspring survive to reproduce.
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4) Offspring who's inherited genetic traits confer an advantage to reproductive success will be more likely to have their own offspring survive to reproduce.
Sure, now pull the trap, or tell me the relevance.
I am smiling.
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joshua221
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Message 139 of 316 (251549)
10-13-2005 6:54 PM
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Reply to: Message 137 by jar
10-13-2005 6:45 PM
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Re: Uniqueness
Why? It isn't tangible as a species is, it is an idea, and a feeling. Unless you're using another definition.
I am smiling.
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Heathen
Member (Idle past 1313 days) Posts: 1067 From: Brizzle Joined: 09-20-2005
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Re: Uniqueness
prophex writes: With this thought you forget God's afterlife Your point was about the strife and stuggle of mortal life, nothing to do with afterlife. You are darting about with barely any notion of where your own argument is leading you. please answer.
prophex writes: God would not give a world of competitive strife and struggle
Wasn't it your god that created this world of struggle and strife? if you think he didn't explain why you think that.
prophex writes: My brother calls this...
Ah!... so there is someone pulling those strings. Do you think through waht your brother or anyone else tells you, or do you just regurgitate?
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jar
Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Re: Uniqueness
Why could that not evolve? What is the mechanism that would prevent feelings from being the result of evolution?
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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Trump won
Suspended Member (Idle past 1270 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: 01-12-2004
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Re: Uniqueness
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just some old guy pissed because of his beliefs. It's not a big deal, the world isn't one like the world of your accepted idea, don't fret.
Charlie, don't do that. Makes you look bad like that. You don't know him, don't judge him. back to homework... well now to homework...
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Trump won
Suspended Member (Idle past 1270 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: 01-12-2004
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Message 143 of 316 (251558)
10-13-2005 7:15 PM
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I am taking a sociology class at Dutchess Community College. Some points relate to this study. I would share some thoughts. Wouldn't be able to right now though. I told Charlie he should take this class, he's already into it, it looks like. This message has been edited by Chris Porteus, 10-13-2005 07:15 PM
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joshua221
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Message 144 of 316 (251559)
10-13-2005 7:20 PM
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Reply to: Message 140 by Heathen
10-13-2005 6:56 PM
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Re: Uniqueness
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Your point was about the strife and stuggle of mortal life, nothing to do with afterlife. You are darting about with barely any notion of where your own argument is leading you.
I like it like that, keeps it fresh.
I am smiling.
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joshua221
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Message 145 of 316 (251560)
10-13-2005 7:23 PM
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Reply to: Message 140 by Heathen
10-13-2005 6:56 PM
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Re: Uniqueness
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Do you think through waht your brother or anyone else tells you, or do you just regurgitate?
haha he's my twin I liked his idea. / By the way how was the bio class in high school, hypocrite.
I am smiling.
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joshua221
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Message 146 of 316 (251561)
10-13-2005 7:27 PM
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Reply to: Message 141 by jar
10-13-2005 7:04 PM
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Re: Uniqueness
Tell me what the word evolve means. I am sort of thinking of evolution as in a a change over time in regards to a living organism, its species. I'm guessing you believe love can change over time, gradually becoming something else. Love doesn't change, the context of love can, but I don't think love itself as an idea, a feeling actually changes to fit PEOPLE, people can change, but I believe that love stays the same, a feeling of caring, and a beautiful thing, that I can;t really describe.
I am smiling.
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Heathen
Member (Idle past 1313 days) Posts: 1067 From: Brizzle Joined: 09-20-2005
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Re: Uniqueness
prophex writes: By the way how was the bio class in high school, hypocrite where have I mentioned Biology? Where have I suggested that I BELIEVE anything completely without question? Why am I a hypocrite?
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jar
Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Re: Uniqueness
I don't have any problem with anything you said. But also, see no reason that such capabilities could not arise along with evolution. GOD, Christianity and the TOE are not mutually exclusive. Who among us is going to tell GOD that he cannot use evolution as his prefered method?
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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nator
Member (Idle past 2199 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: 12-09-2001
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Re: Uniqueness
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The way you think disturbs me. Who taught you about me and my religion?
You taught him about your beliefs, Charlie.
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joshua221
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Message 150 of 316 (251576)
10-13-2005 8:41 PM
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Reply to: Message 148 by jar
10-13-2005 7:32 PM
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Re: Uniqueness
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Who among us is going to tell GOD that he cannot use evolution as his prefered method?
His son.
36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. 37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. "The days of Noah", for evolution to be true and not creation noah wouldn't have existed, and would be part of a myth used by Jesus to make a point. Jesus believed in creation, he was there.
I am smiling.
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