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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
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She looks like a crazy lady. Liberal supreme?
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
What God Wants: Theological Atheism Theological atheism: The belief that God exists, but he does not want us to believe in him. God created evidence to prove that the universe, earth, and life came into existence and developed slowly by natural processes, without any apparent divine intervention. He left this evidence everywhere for us to discover”in the rocks, in fossils, in the DNA of all living things, and in outer space. Since God chose to hide his divine creative powers by using only natural processes that make him redundant, we can conclude he wants to remain invisible and not be acknowledged or worshipped. Note: The common definition of atheism is "disbelief in or denial of the existence of God." At its root, however, atheism literally means "without God." Therefore, if you reject God from your life while still accepting that he exists, you could be called a theological atheist. Theological atheism leaves you free to live your own life on your own terms, without guilt”but also without the bleakness many people associate with rejection of God and all things spiritual. As a theological atheist, you can have it all”the comfort of secretly knowing that God exists, belief in an afterlife if you want, and the confidence that you're doing exactly what God wants by living without him. God was never a deceiver because he's a perfect moral being”even humble. He just prefers to be invisible, and evolution was his way of achieving that. He himself had to slowly evolve towards invisibility, in step with our own ability to comprehend his true nature. Now that we know better, we should respect what God wants”ignore his existence and live without him. We should adopt theological atheism. She knows who God is!!!
Hats off to Eve, the heroic Biblical character who stood up to God and dared to reach for wisdom, truth, beauty, and good food; and to the serpent, who had the guts to tell the truth about God's lies, arrogance, injustice, and tyranny. And a kick in the butt to Adam, that sniveling, finger-pointing, pusillanimous, brain-dead excuse for a husband. And she likes men too!!
God forces people to believe in lies and then condemns them for it. 2 Thessalonians 2:11-12 Therefore God sends upon them a strong delusion, to make them believe what is false, so that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness. She probably just described herself biblically.She has no clue. That's enough for now. Sorry, I do not agree with what this person, or her husband believes in. But I believe in the right to allow her to believe in whatever she wants. She has an agenda, I try not to. This message has been edited by riVeRraT, 03-24-2006 05:52 AM
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
Oh really? From that response I gave, can you explain logically what my agenda is? Or are you just saying that because I believe in God?
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
Someone accused me of having an agenda, without any proof, or explaining why. Isn't that against forum rules? Argue the point, not the person? No unwarranted claims?
If an admin is not going to come in here, and not set straight what the rules are to him, then I will defend myself, I see you decided to only pick on me, as usual, like you've never gone off-topic in any of your posts. EVER.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
What she looks like is not relevant. From the article quoted in the OP True.
Do you dispute what is in the article? Absolutely I dispute it. If I tried to tell you about Christianity, and said, hey there are 2 billion Christians in the world, Christianity is correct! What would your response be? How do you base what is right and wrong on what people do? I am sure there are just as many people who would vote for abortion, but would never consider getting one themselves. Are we counting them? There is no strength in trying to make a group of people look like hypocrites. You willl only succeed in making them look like hypocrites, not actually make a logical arguement for what you stand for. She's trying to say here, look, look! The anti-abortionists are getting abortions! It must be ok then, and they are lying!! Since when are all catholics anti-abortionists? And what about that 16 year old girl who one day got an abortion, and then the next day was outside protesting? You think she did that because she was for or against? Obviously there is another problem there, with her parents, and the real issue is not the abortion, but how her parents treat her. Just like most unwanted pregnancies, the real issue is not the pregnancy, but getting pregnant. Abortion is not a cure for it, it's a band aid. I am a plumber, if I came into your house, and you had a leaking pipe, that was rusted, and all I did was put some tape on it, you know it would leak again. You wouldn't hire me again. It would keep leaking, and I would keep fixing it, until it would fail completely, just like a womans uterus, the place where life begins, has now turned into nothing more than a sink trap, that we pour draino down to clean up when, oops! I got pregnant. I am not talking about rape, or medical reasons here. Most of these people who are for abortion, should be helping the world not have unwanted pregnancies, but you don't see that. Exposing the lies, one truth at a time!
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
that even those who seem to believe with all their hearts that abortion is murder and should be illegal still avail themselves of a safe, legal abortion when they have determined that they really need one. Nobody hates a hypocrite more than me. But I still wouldn't use it to argue a point.
What kind of la-la land do you live in that you don't see that this is the case? Some good friends of mine run Care-netPregnancy Centers | Life Affirming Choices | Pro Abundant Life They have one facility across from the abortion clinic, and the way it was expressed to me, is that it wasn't a friendly relationship. But I know thats not the rule. But why is it I hear so much more about abortion, than help for unwanted pregnancies, or programs to encourage kids NOT to have sex. Having sex at a young age messes up your life, in more ways than one. Unfortunatly our society glorifies it, and it's solution is to have abortions, way to go.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
Which do you consider the more charitable reading ?t Niether, they are just mixed up people, who are hypocrites.There are many on both sides. Has nothing to do with the actual issue.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
Well, I didn't just unjustly accuse her of an agenda, I went to her web-site and read up on exactly what she stands for. Her agenda is listed, mine is not, there-for it is not the same, and funkaloyd is blowing smoke.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
Why must you talk with such an irratating tone?
Please explain to the peanut gallery when sex-ed was ever mentioned, and when I said it was a bad idea. I happen to be for sex-ed, which I was one of the first students in NYC to take the course. I never went to bible camp. You have no clue who I really am, so stop guessing. If we knew each other in real life, we would get along great. I get along with everyone.
yes. abortion is just a quick fix for a deeper problem. Finally some truth, thank you. I agree.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
No offense, rR, but Funk's read a lot of your words, too. I took that into account. My "agenda", is not an agenda. My driving force in life is to try and love others, the way I love myself, and to forgive. It is not "Something to be done, especially an item on a program or list." Her's is.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
That doesn't seem any more charitable than assuming that they don't really believe that abortion is as bad as they say. Why do you think otherwise ?? I do not disagree that those people, according to "statistics" are in fact hypocrites. Each one having their own reasons for doing so. But the same could be said for someone who doesn't care if others get an abortion, but would never get one themselves. So it probably balances out. That is why it is not a good point to argue.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
I am not against male birth control, but it is not the solution.
The solution is no sex. Why do you think the Old Testament was so strict about having sex?Virginity was held with the highest regard in life, and you weren't anything if you lost your virginity in a unpure, or not accepted way. It really does solve a whole lot of physical, and mental issues. Don't take this wrong, I am just pointing it out, not saying we should actually go back to the OT rules. Ever see the movie 40 year old virgin?
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
Accordign to you it is worse to say that they are supporting propaganda that they do not truly believe than to suggest that they do not think of child urder as a horrible crime or to say that they are prepared to commit horrible crimes themselves. Do you really beleive that ?o Na, both are bad. Who are we to judge why they did what they did, and it's all based on some survey.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
You stoned the girl to death because of those property issues, not because of her base immorality. Read Leviticus. I am not an expert on Leviticus, but I do know that most people who read it, would not understand it, because the times were completely different. It is easy to think how atrocious things were, when in fact they might not have been. It's all relative. You can't take bits and pieces of it, and comment on it, unless you have a full understanding of what, why, when, who, and how. Then we just start taking things out of context, something we all could do very easily. The point was/is, that virginity holds a certain value, many good s things come with it, and if you watch MTV lately, you'll see that our society does not think so. Teens are under great pressure to have sex, and they shouldn't be.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
No, actually, it causes these issues. Frequent sexual activity is connected to reduced stress, less incidence of depression, and in general, more healthy living. Not in teens.
Steve Carell is your model for a life with no physical or mental issues? I mentioned it because of all the trouble he went through as a teen, and the pressures he faced just to try and get it on.All the peer pressure he faced from his teen life, and then in is current life, and it all wasn't worth it. I know a few virgins, and they seem pretty healthy to me. They have a purity about them, that no-one else has. I would think that sex causes more diseases/problems (physical/mental) than it cures. I am not talking about healthy monogamous sex between 2 people that love each other, and are married.
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