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Free will: an illusion

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mjfloresta
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Message 59 of 309 (321704)
06-15-2006 1:42 AM 		Reply to: Message 56 by Heathen
06-15-2006 1:38 AM

Re: Topic = Freewill
Yes, but the foreknowledge is directly affected/controlled by the action
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You have a choice of A or B
You choose A
God knew you would choose A
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BUT
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Again you have a choice of A or B
You choose B this time
God knew you would choose B
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The foreknowledge is merely consistent with the reality
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06-15-2006 1:45 AM 		Reply to: Message 58 by Heathen
06-15-2006 1:41 AM

Re: Question directed at christians not like jar
how can it be.. God knows the outcome.. he created you such that there would be only one outcome either stop or run.. whichever one you choose was foreknown.. It was the only outcome possible..it was predestined.
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there is only the illusion of choice.
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From gods point of view you have no choices.. you are playing out what he knows will happen. nothing more.
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That's predestination - a whole 'nother story
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06-15-2006 1:48 AM 		Reply to: Message 61 by Heathen
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Re: Topic = Freewill
all right, later..
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There's only reality - the one that actually happens
That reality is not constrained or guided by foreknowledge; rather the foreknowledge merely reflects (in advance) what will be...
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