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Trump won  Suspended Member (Idle past 1269 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: |
In Existentialism Sartre attempts to reason that Kantian ethics are inadequate to the following real life example:
p28-30 quote: Firstly he asserts that the Christian doctrine can not resolve this moral dilemma but it surely can.The young man wants vengeance but the Christian doctrine says to "Turn the other cheek", and to "love thy enemy". Fighting in a war stands in contrast to "love thy enemy" and fighting for retribution surely stands in contrast to "Turn the other cheek". He then goes on to claim that Kantian ethics do not resolve this moral dilemma.He says if the boy stays with his mother he will be treating her as an end but if he doesn't go fight in the war he will be treating those fighting as means. Sartre does not realize that when one fights and kills other human beings for any reason, they are being treated as means. This decison could have been made a priori though obviously not fully a priori because aposteriori or imperical(experience) knowledge precedes a priori knowledge. Sartre harbored misunderstandings of the christian doctrine and of Kantian ethics itself, or at least the reality of war and the tragedy that it is BECAUSE men are not being treated as human beings but as means.
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Trump won  Suspended Member (Idle past 1269 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: |
Walden is a great example for freedom and has some of the essence of the OP. I was telling Prophex this the other day!
nice post
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Trump won  Suspended Member (Idle past 1269 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: |
It's common knowledge, really. Widely regarded as the nice guy of philosophy.
I will quote sources from my collection when I get home for you.
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CK Member (Idle past 4156 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
It funny how you can waxy all day about various philosophical and ontological concern but cannot answer simple questions as put forward by Schraf, myself and others.
Is it just the fact that you don't practice what you preach (well recycle really) and are unable to answer that prevents your response?Don't be surprised if people dismiss you as a bullshitter if you are unable to answer such "trite" questions. ikabod writes: clearly he has1. never had to live with out money because he has none or no one to give him some 2. he has never had to work to 12 days to earn enough money for one poor meal 3.he has never hunted rubbish heaps for rags to wear . 4.he has never suffered alone 5.he demands of god his own vision and purpose , with no need to conform ore follow . is all this ultra harsh ... i think not if one can spend time debating Kant or whoever is this weeks topics flavour , can spend time working out where best to move to to be a music super star , then one can look at the places in this world where it is ugly and mean and people struggle to survive with out the time to consider the bright shinning theroies on the purpose of life .. That post seems to have hit the nail on the hit. MOO I take it your non-answer means you sponge off your father while you enjoy the privilege of having hours to sit and ponder your great message.
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Archer Opteryx Member (Idle past 3626 days) Posts: 1811 From: East Asia Joined: |
No need to prove anything, thanks. It's obviously a reference to Hume's standing as an enfant terrible. I just thought you might be quoting someone in particular.
Archer All species are transitional.
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Omnivorous Member Posts: 3991 From: Adirondackia Joined: Member Rating: 6.9 |
mess writes: It's common knowledge, really. Widely regarded as the nice guy of philosophy. Common knowledge among the privileged Western elite, perhaps, but like most common knowledge, somewhat wrong. For example, Rousseau didn't think Hume was such a nice guy. God gave us the earth. We have dominion over the plants, the animals, the trees. God said, ”Earth is yours. Take it. Rape it. It’s yours.’ --Ann Coulter, Fox-TV: Hannity & Colmes, 20 Jun 01 Save lives! Click here!Join the World Community Grid with Team EvC! ---------------------------------------
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kuresu Member (Idle past 2542 days) Posts: 2544 From: boulder, colorado Joined: |
another take on freedom, this time coming from The Who.
I'm Free, The Who writes:
I'M FREE-I'm free,And freedom tastes of reality, I'm free-I'm free, AN' I'm waiting for you to follow me. If I told you what it takesto reach the highest high, You'd laugh and say 'nothing's that simple' But you've been told many times before Messiahs pointed to the door And no one had the guts to leave the temple! I'm free-I'm freeAnd freedom tastes of reality I'm free-I'm freeAnd I'm waiting for you to follow me. Chorus: How can we follow?How can we follow? All a man's knowledge comes from his experiences
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Trump won  Suspended Member (Idle past 1269 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: |
Yeah, they had a falling out. I guess it is better to be safe then sorry when generalizing knowledge known.
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Trump won  Suspended Member (Idle past 1269 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: |
Dear kuresu,
Did you see my request?
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Trump won  Suspended Member (Idle past 1269 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: |
quote: Key word: simple.
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kuresu Member (Idle past 2542 days) Posts: 2544 From: boulder, colorado Joined: |
I don't think so.
All a man's knowledge comes from his experiences
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Trump won  Suspended Member (Idle past 1269 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: |
Message 178
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joshua221  Inactive Member |
Thanks, and it's really cool that you thought about the topic on your trip.
I agree with the concept of the canoe, everything affecting the course of life, right? Yeah, those are the buddhist teachings, also Christian, and many other religions most likely for obvious reasons.
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joshua221  Inactive Member |
What does MOO mean?!?!?!? Saw it twice now.
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joshua221  Inactive Member |
quote: Why? Read up friend.
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