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Author Topic:   Get Over Your Fear of Atheism
Nuggin
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Message 95 of 169 (394190)
04-10-2007 2:24 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by mpb1
04-01-2007 5:48 PM


Re: Why I didn't become an atheist
Here's the big mistake that Christians always make when they talk about evolution and atheism.
You don't have to be both.
Evolution does not require atheism. Evolution simply contradicts blind fundamentalism.
Just because you've come to realize that the people preaching YEC are full of it, doesn't mean that you need to completely give up on your spirituality.
As an atheist myself, I'll say this - I don't care if others become an atheist. All I want is for people to leave behind blind following of dogma.
Think for yourself. If you look at all the facts and say, "Yes, Evolution happened and I think God is the one the set up the system." I don't think many of the people on the "atheist team" are going to fight you on it.

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Nuggin
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Message 96 of 169 (394191)
04-10-2007 2:30 AM
Reply to: Message 92 by StevieBoy
04-09-2007 11:39 PM


Re: Why I didn't become an atheist
Absolutely nothing wrong with your being a believer in science and reason AND being swept up in feelings of religeous faith.
So long as your new found relationship with God doesn't require you accept on "faith" something which you know to not be true. (ie The Flood really happened!).
There are plenty of scientists all over the world who are logical, reasonable and religeous.

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Nuggin
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Message 114 of 169 (394448)
04-11-2007 2:26 PM
Reply to: Message 100 by mpb1
04-10-2007 8:32 PM


Re: Why I didn't become an atheist
The problem with your whole post is that you are putting in a source that's not needed.
For simplicity I'm going to reduce your argument to something silly so that you can more easily distill what I am saying.
Athetists believe that cookies come from cookie dough and that they are made in the oven.
Fundamentalists believe that cookies come from cookie dough but that they are imbued with magical cookie goodness from God while they are in the oven.
Further, Fundamentalists claim that Atheists can't disprove that God imbues cookies with magical goodness regardless of their believe or disbelief in him.
You are correct, we can't disprove God's magical goodness that he imbues in cookies. But that doesn't make the act real.
Just because you have a cookbook from two thousand years ago that says "God imbues cookies" doesn't make it so.
If you want to buy into the "God does magic stuff without us knowing it" thing, that's fine. But you can't just pick and choose where God does his magical stuff.
God makes homosexuals through his magic gay-a-fying ray gun.
God causes priests to perform acts of child abuse because that is pleasing to him.
God causes all cancers which strike down young children, because God hates children.
You can't disprove any of those statements, therefore they must be true.

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