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Neutralmind Member (Idle past 6152 days) Posts: 183 From: Finland Joined: |
Okay, here's a seriously non biased website and a quasar in front of a galaxy (apparently).
The Picture that Won‘t Go Away Is there anything into this? Btw, don't just bash the site, I want to know if there's really any validity. edit: Okay, this is the NGC 7319 which some of you mentioned. Still, is there any validity to the claim that is in front of the galaxy? Edited by Neutralmind, : No reason given. Edited by Neutralmind, : No reason given.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
What makes you say that it's "non biased" ? Wouldn't it be better to just say that it presents an argument for Arp's claims ?
(In fact it seems to be a neo-Velikovskian site so I would very much doubt that it is "non biased")
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Neutralmind Member (Idle past 6152 days) Posts: 183 From: Finland Joined: |
If you didn't catch my sarcasm (looking back I don't see how you could have though) that's just... Unlucky.
This is why we must keep the smilies people! Edited by Neutralmind, : No reason given.
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 763 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
The Arp paper is available in html for free, apparently. I'm not qualified to judge, though.
AbE: the paper says, "More studies are required, since this is the only system found so far in which there is the possibility of demonstrating more clearly that the QSO and galaxy are interacting." Probably good advice. Edited by Coragyps, : No reason given.
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cavediver Member (Idle past 3671 days) Posts: 4129 From: UK Joined: |
I'm not qualified to judge, though. Maybe not, but surely you can pick up the gist??? "Look, look isn't this strange if the QSO is not associated with the galaxy? Oh, the referee says to point out that this isn't so strange... but imagine if it was strange!!! Then we'd have the proof we want..." Repeat the above about four times through the paper, then conclude with your forgone conclusion anyway. This is pretty poor stuff... I'm quite taken aback myself. Then there is his comment near the end on X-ray QSOs being abnormally associated with galactic nuclei - does not mention selection effects of observation. How were these X-ray QSOs detected? - if only several of them were because of galactic X-ray observations that then discovered an X-ray source in the QSOs themselves, then the correlation is immediately explained.
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cavediver Member (Idle past 3671 days) Posts: 4129 From: UK Joined: |
Still, is there any validity to the claim that is in front of the galaxy? Short answer: no Long answer: hmmm, not really, no
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 763 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
I'm quite taken aback myself. I was, too - I had assumed before reading it that I wouldn't be qualified. I wouldn't have wanted my name on there, and I'm just a Messier Club certificate holder!
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cavediver Member (Idle past 3671 days) Posts: 4129 From: UK Joined: |
I'm just a Messier Club certificate holder! amatuers have all the fun What does that mean? You've observed the entire Messier catalogue? Nice one. So how far off are you from your NGC Club certificate
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 763 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
I have the NGC 400 Club too.
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Zhimbo Member (Idle past 6040 days) Posts: 571 From: New Hampshire, USA Joined: |
Herschel?
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Son Goku Inactive Member |
Are you looking for problems with specific models about how the universe evolved following the Big Bang? There are some open questions on most of these, which I'd be happy to provide if you want to talk about them.
On the other hand, if you're looking for problems with the conclusion that the universe came from a high-temperature, high-density state in the distant past (essentially that there was a Big Bang), then there genuinely isn't really any open problems with that idea.
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catman62@bellsouth.net  Inactive Member |
You have to read books like manifolds, topology and physics. They are
inertia and gravity come together that produce entropy. Edited by catman62@bellsouth.net, : kirk edward gaulden
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Neutralmind Member (Idle past 6152 days) Posts: 183 From: Finland Joined: |
Are you looking for problems with specific models about how the universe evolved following the Big Bang? There are some open questions on most of these, which I'd be happy to provide if you want to talk about them.
I'm only familiar with the most "mainstream" BB theory, that the universe began (if you'll excuse me) from a singularity. If there are open questions for this theory then yes, I'm interested.I'm looking for observations that are still contradictory, peculiar or unexplained by the big bang theory, the problems what astronomists and physicist are trying to solve. Edited by Neutralmind, : No reason given.
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jackal5096 Inactive Member |
quote: If that were so, why do so many astronomers brag about using gravitational lensing to see behind a galaxy? For example, in this NASA photo NASA claims that a single quasar, located behind the galaxy, appears four times, in four quadrants, around the galaxy in front of it, due to gravitational lensing. Yet, the quasar is not directly visible through the galaxy.
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