Surrendering to Jesus/God is Not Biblical

It's deepens on God. This year, if you smoke, God may continue to allow you to smoke cigarretes. They may actually serve some purpose like calming you down so he can get your attention. Next year He may say you no longer need to smoke cigarretes. You may not hear a voice, but something may happen to you or a family member that makes you not want to smoke. God uses all things to guide you where He wants. For someone who has not surrendered, he has to question (choose) whether or not to listen. For the person who has totally surrendered, the choice has already been made. This person is simply waiting on the message from God. Anyone who chooses whether to listen to anything God is telling them has not surrendered their will. Anyone who has already choose to listen to what ever God tells them has surrender. I guess it's hard for you to believe but some people actually stopped choosing to choose.

I asked God to possess me. Demonic possession works by the same rules God established. A person who is possessed by demons, in some had to ask or invite the demons to possess them. That is the law of the spirit world. Look at the vampire tales which may not be tales. You have to invite the vampire in. Likewise you have to invite Jesus Christ, The Holy Spirit, and God in. God does not possess most people because most people never ask. I did. Edited by AdminPD, : Warning

I agree. The problem is that anyone who draws a line is not a christian. I mean that they never "knew" God and He never "knew" them. Most on this thread are evolutionists disquising themselves as believers of God. Check the science threads(same people there are here); there only point is to disprove God's Word. Before you can understand the Word, you have to believe in God. Which is saying you have to be saved(a christian). So yes we believe the bible to be a divine(not magical) book that only certain people can decipher. Only us christians will ever understand this CTD. Edited by AdminPD, : Warning

Can't argue on that one. You never made this point clear to me. No one can truly argue this point without being God. I'll admit it's possible he may not want everybody to be the same. The bible does say "many are called; few are chosen." Which are you? I'm one of the chosen; I had no choice. He would not allow me to be anything other than what He wanted me to be. Others do seem to live a happier life than I ever could without Him. It's your life; I'm only ASSuming it would be better if you submitted because of my experience. I guess God chose me; The 144,000.

I should not seem anyway to you yet. All we talked about is whether surrendering to God is what he wants; I never told you anything about myself. If you knew my story, you would see that I seem to be at a level of enlightenment. That's when the ways of the world is no longer important to you. All the knowledge in the world is only useful in communicating with others. Only true God given wisdom is important to me. Wisdom that tells me science says "basically" the same thing religion says; science just uses a different way of explaining it. The bible says "disown yourself" and some say it doesn't say to surely disown yourself. God also told Adam if he ate of this tree he would die; the devil said "you won't surely die." I see the devil (any opposition of God's word is of Satan) is up to his old tricks again.
I believe it was you, Ringo, who pointed out that you only have to surrender to your enemy(using the common use of the word surrender). The bible says you can not serve two masters. With that in mind, if you obey God sometimes and the devil sometimes; you serve the devil only. If you obey God and yourself; you serve the devil only. The devil is God's enemy. Either you are on God's side or you're on the other. Pick one. This is how christians see it and the bible explains it. That's why we use surrender. Until you surrender, we (christians, God, Jesus, and the Holy spirit) believe you ARE the enemy. Fortunately for you, the bible tells us to love our enemies and show them the path(if they want to see it). So Purp, if you truly want to learn what the bible says about surrender every creationist here would show you. In order to learn you would have to be quiet and listen. Some are smart in the ways of the world, some are wise in the ways of God. You can't really believe both. A pastor could not argue with a scientist on the subject of science. A scientist could not argue with a pastor on the subject of the word. Here you all should learn. In the science thread you can teach.

What book would you use to teach this? The bible does not teach this. The bible teaches that if you could fix it yourself you would have no need for God. You just have the wrong understanding of what the bible means by repenting. Repenting is when you don't want to or can't change, but appologize to God and tell him you will surrender to his will. That's true repenting according to the bible not Webster. I want to know what the bible says about everything.

I never told you king James. FOR THE THIRD TIME I WILL POST AGAIN:Young's Literal Translation King James The king James version doesn't say disown, but a true bible scholar would not rely on the many revisions which produced the King James Version without using older versions to cross reference it. This is why RickJB. I study the bible like scientist study science books. I know a little science but I can't argue with an astrophisicist. You may have read the bible. But only a true believer would spend the time to become the astrophycisist of the word of God.

It's the "controlled by the spirit" part I'm trying to point out. IT'S RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF YOU PHAT! You don't want to see it so you won't. 122112 is fast approaching. The Master, who owns and controls the spirit, controls all true christians. If He made you, then He owns you and has the right to rule or control you. If you "make" a child; even by our law you have a right to rule/control that child. It's that spirit of rebellion that does not want to let you understand what God wants. Live your life with your God given right to choose how to live. YOU WILL NOT ENTER HEAVEN UNLESS YOU CHOOSE NOT TO CHOOSE. SURRENDER. The choice is and will always be yours. 122112 is fast approaching. Ha Ha Ha. Who will be (thinking) foolish? I promise not to say I told you so on that day. That wouldn't be heavenly. We all will soon see. I will lock the gates when He's had enough.Pit Boy Number ONE - 2112