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As well they should. I didn't even want to get started on the filthy smokers.Smokers especially are the worst. I mean really, just stop smoking and you won't need a transplant later in life. It's that simple. When you walk by a pack of cigaretes at the market, or gas station, or while in a bar, or at the pharmacy, or in a casino, some movie theaters, arenas, sporting event, stripclub, or mall, just say "NO THANKS. I don't poison my body with addictive chemicals. I live right, eat right, and stay healthy." It's called self control, and people need to start applying it.That goes for you especially, old guy.- Oni

Well isn't that rich, you can stuff your face for years and not do an ounce of exercise then they get to call themselves a "person in need." I'm think this is a joke. Young, yes. Fit, definitely. Old and handycapped? I don't think so. Unless it's someone like Mr. LaLanne or the guys who play murderball. It's not the nations job to keep the food out of our mouth and make sure we exercise.- Oni

Fine if you want to get into semantics.The fact is, even if the fatties get to work, which most don't and that's a fact, they will still be a bigger burden on the state because of their unhealthy lifestyle. And they don't deserve it. They're killing themselves, why should we care if they don't care for themselves?- Oni

High calorie diets, lots of fast food and candy, zero exercise, lots of tv time.There are ZERO fast food places in the entire country of Scandinavia. Thus they are healthier. No absolutely not. They are unhealthy layabouts (or slobs if you will) because they eat very very poorly. I will admit to once during my unenlightened days going to Mc Donalds. I can tell you that I didn't want to move after that meal. And, since most Americans eat fast food for all 3 main meals of the day, is there any wonder why we're unhealthy fatty fat fats? No. Closing one Mc Donalds per week will get you better results.- Oni

What's "the nation"? Me? You? The government?You want government, or me, getting involved in what you feed yourself?- Oni

It is a fact that most if not all slip and falls occur to people over weight. I can only take you on your word that you are NOT fat.If we're not going to be genuinely honest with one another we can't move forward in this debate.- Oni

Yeah, yeah, I get they use our taxes but you know what I mean. Don't get so technical about it. I'm just talking about healthcare that you don't have to pay an insurance company for.My taxes, if you want to go this route instead, should not be used to help the Paula Deen's of this country stuff their faces with burgers and fries with type 2 diabetes while also giving them healthcare.ANYONE not on a low carb/daily exercise program should NOT be allow universal healthcare. It hurts the overall cost of medical treatment and the medicine that we purchase.And frankly, over weight people are an eye sore.- Oni

Well they shouldn't have to when it's self inflicted as in most cases of people getting ill.If you take away healthcare, I mean get rid of it completely, we would faze out the weak, the over weight, the genetically inferior, and what's left is a strong, fit, superior species that would need little to NO healthcare coverage.That's the easiet way. That is the NATURAL order of life. Why are you, and others, trying to fuck with that system of regulating when it has gotten our species this far in the history of life?Where was healthcare for hominids? The first of the homo-genus? It was called nature: natural selection, fucking evolution man. We are creating a weak species that now DEMANDS healthcare. But why? Why not let nature take it's course? My answer is not to provide anything at all. There are gyms, there are streets, there are parks and all kinds of other means to work out and stay fit. Also, there is plenty of healthy food out there that everyone can afford. Get on it America. And the rest of the world too for that matter.No government involvement AT ALL on anything that you should be handling yourself.My way is simple and easy, let nature weed out those who are unfit like it does every single day for every single other animal.Instead though, you would rather intervene in that process. You would rather create a system of providing care and medicine to keep alive those who couldn't stay alive if not for that care. Now it's to the point where we are fighting with one another as to which system of intervening with nature we want to have. It's absolutely ridiculous that as a species we would do this. Nuts!And what's overall cost to the rest of us? Limited resources, congested cities, failing economical systems, no jobs, diseases running fucking rampant to the point where you can't eat a piece of meat without thinking some virus is going to kill you, and the list goes on.We have too many people on this rock. We shouldn't be so limited in our resources and yet a whole fucking planet that has been far more than enough for every other species that has ever existed, including the enormous dinosuars, is now no enough for one, greedy, selfish species. Seriously?You want universal healthcare to keep more people alive, enjoy it. I will have no part of that. The extinction of our species will not be on my hands.- Oni

Yes sir. The irony, right?But a simple "no thank you" and walking away would solve that issue of having to buy them. But stupid Americans can't seem to say no to cigarettes.- Oni

There's a law in the jungle?All the stuff you mention are things we built like neighborhoods, buildings, places to worship the great gods, and they're NOT the jungle. Thus, they need policeMEN, fireMEN and etc. But eating and the health you promote is as natural as it was at the dawn of our species.So the "law of the jungle" as you put it SHOULD be applied. Oh I'm SURE. Just ask the Earth if she's enjoy all these buildings on her, destroying her, making it worse and worse everday to live her. One day we'll possibly be looking back from a spaceship with Jesus leaving this planet in search of other resources thinking, how the fuck was a whole entire goddamn planet not enough for us?And all we need to do to save that is thin the heard by just letting nature take it's course.- OniEdited by onifre, : No reason given.

Oh, ok. I thought you were talking about monkeys holding court or something.But yes we're on the same page, survival of the fittest. All animals eat well except us. We're not fit because we don't care to be. We are not healthy because we don't care to be. Shouldn't we care about not looking fat and ugly?If we don't care about our looks and health, why do we get to bypass nature with healthcare? My point is that eating is natural and so is exercising. Buildings are not. Therefore, buildings require firemen to handle the fire. There is no natural mechanism to put out the fire. Where as eating doesn't need doctors. It's so simple, how can you not understand that? Nah, she wants these little piggies to get off the butts and do some light 7-8 mile jogging, maybe a little intense cardio after, and for sure she wants the fatties to stay out of Mc Donalds.We shouldn't reward people with healthcare if they're going to stuff their faces and live inactive lifestyles. That's my point. Also that fat is an eye sore.- Oni

Well that's just wrong. Name one. Um, no, we don't find that at all.- Oni

Through the art of meditation. You need to reach nirvana. When you do though, you'll be able to listen to the Earth. I can do it. There are a few of us who can. Therefore my opinion, not to brag, should count more than the rest of yours.- Oni

I didn't know beavers build dams so other beavers can eat all the greasy, fatty, heart stopping Mc Donalds they want and then call themselves disabled? This line of reasoning has arbitrarily placed a headache in my head.- Oni

Well that's covered in my overall healthy living lifestyle. Wrap it up when you're beating it up, I always say.Also, if you work out and diet, you'll have a better body and will up grade from dirty syphilitic women to a clean, healthy yoga instructor who never have syphilis.- Oni