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Topic: Chariots of God (Scripture & Photo Examined)
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New Cat's Eye
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Message 112 of 1310 (751487)
03-03-2015 1:11 PM
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Reply to: Message 104 by Faith
03-03-2015 12:27 PM
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No, you supposedly "proved" that the orbs are demonic, but that is not what I was saying. Huh? You're not making any sense.
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New Cat's Eye
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Message 122 of 1310 (751509)
03-03-2015 2:18 PM
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Reply to: Message 115 by ScottRP
03-03-2015 1:18 PM
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What you are looking at is a photograph of the Spirit of God Um, you just made that up. And of course you will provide no evidence or even argumentation for why I should believe you. What is your purpose here, then?
and He sometimes appears as a Halo above people's head. And there's no heads in your photo - so it cannot be a Halo.
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New Cat's Eye
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Message 139 of 1310 (751541)
03-03-2015 4:27 PM
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Reply to: Message 137 by ScottRP
03-03-2015 4:00 PM
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How old are you? Like, 80 years or something?
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New Cat's Eye
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Message 143 of 1310 (751559)
03-03-2015 8:42 PM
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Reply to: Message 141 by ScottRP
03-03-2015 7:43 PM
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So that's it, then? You just completely give up?
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New Cat's Eye
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Message 151 of 1310 (751588)
03-04-2015 9:34 AM
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Reply to: Message 146 by ScottRP
03-03-2015 10:03 PM
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I'm still here, aren't I? Sort of, but not really. I mean, you're posting stuff... its completely worthless nonsense, but its stuff.
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New Cat's Eye
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Message 152 of 1310 (751589)
03-04-2015 9:35 AM
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Reply to: Message 148 by Meddle
03-04-2015 4:55 AM
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Well, you did provide a better argument than ScottRP ever has.
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Message 156 of 1310 (751598)
03-04-2015 10:32 AM
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Reply to: Message 153 by ScottRP
03-04-2015 10:08 AM
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I've been posting the truth, Only, you don't know that it is true. So you assert, but you have provided no sound reasoning for why anyone should believe that you've posted the truth. As a result, you've convinced exactly zero people that what you've posted is actually true. I've posted explanations, both verbally and graphically, for how these orbs can be recreated with dust in the atmosphere. Faced with my valid explanation, and your complete lack of any argument, people can only conclude that what I have posted is true and what you have posted is false. It will remain that way until you actually provide a reason to believe you. ABE: Ya know, if you actually cared about sharing the truth then you would provide us with reasoning on why what you are sharing is, in fact, true. That you'd rather just baldly assert that you have the truth, instead of explaining why, shows us that you don't really care about sharing the truth. And further, it suggests that you are just another charlatan. Edited by Cat Sci, : see ABE
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New Cat's Eye
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Message 159 of 1310 (751625)
03-04-2015 1:14 PM
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Reply to: Message 158 by ScottRP
03-04-2015 1:09 PM
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1 John 4:1 "Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world."
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New Cat's Eye
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Message 164 of 1310 (751643)
03-04-2015 2:57 PM
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Reply to: Message 162 by ScottRP
03-04-2015 2:54 PM
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So, you are saying that photographs of chariots of God and the Spirit of God have failed your test? Yes, isn't that obvious? We can easily recreate the phenomenon with dust. And you've offered no reason or explanation for why we should think it is anything but that. You know, aside from just asserting that it is and then claiming that you're telling the truth.
Correction: I have provided rational explanations for them, you have not. If you believe that, then you don't know what "rational" means. Edited by Cat Sci, : No reason given.
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New Cat's Eye
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Message 167 of 1310 (751647)
03-04-2015 3:34 PM
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Reply to: Message 166 by AZPaul3
03-04-2015 3:21 PM
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And yet you insist the you, in violation of scripture, can visually identify the Spirit of God, and that ,further, you can take pictures of it and post them on the internet.
Something is not right here, Scott. Either you are wrong or the scripture is wrong. Obviously, he is the one who is wrong. And further, since he is claiming that a piece of dust is the Spirit of God, and telling us that he is telling the truth and that we just cannot see it, then that counts as blaspheming the Holy Spirit: Mark 3:29 "but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin."
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New Cat's Eye
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Message 171 of 1310 (751652)
03-04-2015 4:20 PM
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Reply to: Message 170 by ScottRP
03-04-2015 4:04 PM
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How could anyone know that I am being deceived when they have never seen the Spirit of God themselves? You behavior in this thread informs us that you are not intelligent enough to even know if you saw the Spirit of God or not. That you think a piece of dust in a photograph is the Spirit of God shows us just how easily you are deceived. The way you act shows us the fact that you are unworthy of the presence of the Spirit of God so we know that it never actually happened. Now, I don't know that you actually were deceived, because I'm leaving open the possibility that you are just a liar.
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New Cat's Eye
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Message 184 of 1310 (751698)
03-04-2015 11:37 PM
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Reply to: Message 181 by ScottRP
03-04-2015 10:38 PM
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This scripture refers to the world being unable to visually identify the Holy Spirit and His acts. And here you come with a photograph of what you're telling us is the Spirit and you're claiming that you have visually identified one of His acts.
Lies are being told about Him because the world lacks spiritual discernment. Then we explain what it really is a photo of, and you lie to us and tell us that you're telling the truth and that we don't have the powers that you do. You don't even know that you're being tricked by the devil. All he had to do was tell you that he was the Spirit of God. You fell for it because you lack spiritual discernment.
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Message 187 of 1310 (751708)
03-05-2015 12:59 AM
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Reply to: Message 186 by jaywill
03-05-2015 12:44 AM
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Ezekiel's vision can be approached if we go back to Genesis 1 through 3. The climax of these three chapters is God placing the created man before the tree of life. The whole Bible is needed to ascertain that the tree of life God Himself entering into man. The tree of life is a symbol of God presented to in the form of food that man may take God into himself. God created man in order to get INTO man. And God depicted in the form of food - the tree of life, is a symbol of this profound truth. What we eat gets into our body to become part of us. And God's eternal purpose is to dispense Himself into man just like man eating food. Already you can see that the utter oneness of the Divine and the Human was on the Creator's heart from the beginning of man's creation. This will become very important as we get into the details of the symbolism of Ezekiel's vision. The point of this post is that the vision of Ezekiel is related to the original purpose of God in, in God wanting to be so intimately united with humanity that the two - God and man are incorporated organically into a profound mingling. When man lives, he lives out God. When God lives, He lives through man. The eternal plan of God is seen again in Ezekiel's strange vision. and
When man disobeyed God in the fall of man, the tree of life was concealed and encompassed by the cherubim. This creature, a cherubim guarded the way to the tree of life with a flaming sword. Here we see God barring the way to the tree life from the fallen Adam and Eve.
And Jehovah God said, Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil, and now, lest he put forth his hand take also from the tree of life and eat and live forever - Therefore Jehovah God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, ... So He drove the man out, and at the east of the garden of Eden He placed the cherubim and a flaming sword which turned in every direction to guard the way to the tree of life. The barrier against man partaking of God as divine life is threefold. The cherubim represent the glory of God. Man has fallen short of the glory of God and is excluded from receiving God into him. The flame of the sword represents the holiness of God. Man has fallen short of the holiness of God and is therefore excluded. The sword represents the righteousness of God. Man has fallen short of the righteousness of God and is therefore excluded from taking in God. Adam is now united with God's enemy, poisoned, corrupted, and being filled up with death. Adam and Eve have fallen from an innocent state into a state at enmity with thier Creator. God has a threefold demand upon Adam and Eve which they cannot fulfill. They come short of the glory, the holiness, and the righteousness of God. God's plan to enter into man as "food" that God and man may live an mingled life in union is bared. But in the rest of the Bible it is through the redemption of Christ, man gains again access to the tree of life. In the rest of the revelation of Scripture the redeeming work of Christ opens the way for man to again, to take the tree of life as his food. You will notice that I will not spend inordinate time to prove to some skeptics that Jesus Christ is central to the whole Old Testament and New Testament. It is going to be submitted as a given for the most part. Those who cannot take it just won't be able to take it. In the Bible's final book we see the way to the tree of life opened to all those who are qualified to enter into the eternal city New Jerusalem.
Blessed are those who wash their robes that they may have right to the tree of life and may enter into the gates of the city. (Rev. 22:14) They have washed their robes in the blood of the Redeemer the Son of God.
... These are those who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. (Rev. 7:14) That means that they have partaken of the redemptive salvation of Jesus Christ. His shed blood upon Calvary's cross has redeemed them, justified them, and atoned for their sins for eternity. They are justified to come back to God's eternal purpose to dispense His life and nature into them as the tree of life. The cherubim, the sword, the flame of Genesis 3 will all become important to entering into the significance of Ezekiel's vision. Okay, so does the following picture show, as the author of the OP described, "a spirit in one of God's chariots...also known as Ezekiel's wheels"?
And does the scripture they quoted in this thread support that assessment?
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Message 194 of 1310 (751737)
03-05-2015 9:57 AM
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Reply to: Message 189 by jaywill
03-05-2015 1:14 AM
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I don't care anything for the photo. Um, that's kinda the whole point of the thread.
The issues about seeing the Holy Spirit in a photograph I regarded foolish, sensational and I won't be paying attention to it. So you're just going to hijack the thread and preach about what you want to talk about rather than discussing the topic? You're talking about food in a thread on spirit orbs? Why would you do that? Why not just start your own topic?
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Message 204 of 1310 (751780)
03-05-2015 3:56 PM
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Reply to: Message 200 by jaywill
03-05-2015 3:10 PM
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Is it valid or invalid to consult then Scripture in this thread to "understand Ezekiel's vision" ? ANYONE ? Maybe it would help if you explain how Message 186 and Message 188 have anything to do with Ezekiel's vision.
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