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Author Topic:   Chariots of God (Scripture & Photo Examined)
ScottRP
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Message 155 of 1310 (751596)
03-04-2015 10:21 AM
Reply to: Message 154 by jar
03-04-2015 10:18 AM


I've shown you a genuine photograph of a chariot of God and one of the Spirit of God.

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ScottRP
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Message 158 of 1310 (751623)
03-04-2015 1:09 PM


1 Corinthians 2:14. But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

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ScottRP
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Message 162 of 1310 (751641)
03-04-2015 2:54 PM
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03-04-2015 1:14 PM


So, you are saying that photographs of chariots of God and the Spirit of God have failed your test?

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ScottRP
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Message 163 of 1310 (751642)
03-04-2015 2:56 PM
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03-04-2015 1:23 PM


Correction: I have provided rational explanations for them, you have not.

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ScottRP
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Message 165 of 1310 (751644)
03-04-2015 3:07 PM


John 14:17. the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you.
NKJV Scholastic Commentary: Neither sees Him nor knows Him does not mean merely that the world is not able to visually identify the Holy Spirit because He is Spirit. Something more is meant: The Spirit of God is active in the world, but His acts go unnoticed by the world (see 1 Cor. 2:14).
Not only is the world unable to visually identify the Spirit of God, His works go unnoticed as well.

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ScottRP
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Message 168 of 1310 (751649)
03-04-2015 3:43 PM
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03-04-2015 3:21 PM


I have seen the Spirit of God with my own two eyes and thus can identify Him. Have you ever seen Him? If not, how do you know that I am wrong?
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ScottRP
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Message 170 of 1310 (751651)
03-04-2015 4:04 PM


How could anyone know that I am being deceived when they have never seen the Spirit of God themselves?

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ScottRP
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Message 180 of 1310 (751690)
03-04-2015 10:17 PM
Reply to: Message 173 by jar
03-04-2015 4:28 PM


Re: many are col;d but few are frozen.
Photographs!

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ScottRP
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Message 181 of 1310 (751691)
03-04-2015 10:38 PM
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03-04-2015 5:09 PM


This scripture refers to the world being unable to visually identify the Holy Spirit and His acts. Lies are being told about Him because the world lacks spiritual discernment. There are many testimonies in the bible of people seeing the Holy Spirit.

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ScottRP
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Message 210 of 1310 (751811)
03-06-2015 7:12 AM
Reply to: Message 167 by New Cat's Eye
03-04-2015 3:34 PM


Why don't you looked up. "he saw the Spirit" in scripture. You may want to look up the word blasphemy as well.

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ScottRP
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Message 211 of 1310 (751813)
03-06-2015 7:15 AM
Reply to: Message 187 by New Cat's Eye
03-05-2015 12:59 AM


It is actually a spirit in a chariot of God. A very small version of Ezekiel's wheels. Remember, what Ezekiel saw appeared with Father God and the Seraphim and would have been much more. The photograph suggest that the whole Vision of God is real. Any other views of this vision is welcome. Christians should not be against evidence, no matter how small, leading to the reality of this vision.
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ScottRP
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From: Tustin, California USA
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Message 212 of 1310 (751814)
03-06-2015 7:21 AM
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03-05-2015 3:24 PM


Re: Re:
I'm ok with you discussing Ezekiel's Vision and not the photograph. After all, that is what this thread is about.
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ScottRP
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Message 221 of 1310 (752048)
03-08-2015 11:19 AM


My thoughts on Ezekiel's Vision of God.
It appears to be a grand vision of God on his throne, Seraphim (living creatures) and what Ezekiel describes as, "a wheel in the middle of a wheel" - a great chariot of God with rims "full of eyes". The eyes around the rims appear to be the eyes of the Lord. I believe that the eyes of the Lord in the old testament was a description of the Spirit of God or Holy Spirit who bears witness. Thus, I believe the vision to include the Holy Spirit Himself as a great living chariot of God.
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ScottRP
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Message 223 of 1310 (752089)
03-08-2015 1:29 PM
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03-08-2015 12:40 PM


Re: My thoughts on Ezekiel's Vision of God.
I was giving my thoughts on Ezekiel's Vision, not the photograph. The photograph is merely of a spirit in one of God's small chariots. There are thousands of thousands of these chariots. The chariots in Ezekiel's Vision were far greater and thus there would be far fewer in number and maybe only appearing with people like Father God, Jesus and the highest of angels. There is a huge gap between what Ezekiel saw and that photograph. The photograph is merely a tiny bit of evidence leading to the reality of Ezekiel's Vision.

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ScottRP
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Message 225 of 1310 (752099)
03-08-2015 2:07 PM
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03-08-2015 1:38 PM


Re: My thoughts on Ezekiel's Vision of God.
What that photograph and Ezekiel's vision have in common is that they are both chariots of God. The chariot in Ezekiel's vision is far greater with the rims, "full of eyes". This is do to the fact that the chariot's of Ezekiel were appearing with God and the highest of angels, the Seraphim.

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