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Message 303 of 1310 (752458)
03-11-2015 1:50 PM
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03-11-2015 12:29 PM


Re: My thoughts on Ezekiel's Vision of God.
There are those in heaven that might consider you the idiot and not I.
As one of the world's foremost experts on the subject I know I am safe since this heaven of yours does not exist.

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Message 306 of 1310 (752490)
03-11-2015 8:04 PM
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03-11-2015 6:58 PM


Re: My thoughts on Ezekiel's Vision of God.
Again speaking as a recognized expert, I can state with great confidence that any flavor of afterlife also does not exist, just like your heaven.
The afterlife is the hook, the advertised attraction, used to pull in the gullible and the fearful. Once the hook is set then you manipulate the mark by threatening to remove the prize if the ritual is not followed, if the catechism is not recited, if the faith should ever waver, if the offering is too little. The promise of an afterlife is the road to control, power and riches for the charlatan, the priest and the church. The afterlife is a ruse.
Again, with great confidence in what the biology, the physics, the chemistry have shown us, the only "after" from your life is oblivion and all the faith in all of heaven and earth cannot change that.
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Message 323 of 1310 (752776)
03-12-2015 6:28 PM
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03-12-2015 2:06 PM


Waiting for proof of a negative. Really?
Spoken like a true atheist.
Thank you. I appreciate that.
One would have to be in all places at all times to know that God does not exist.
Oh, I don't have to show that your favorite flavor of god does not exist. You are the one making the claim that such a thing does exist. The evidentiary burden is on you and your fellow religionists. Thus far you have failed ... completely ... for the last 2000+ years.
What the science shows is that a lot of biblical stories and religionists interpretations are demonstrably false. What the science shows is that those assertions held up as proofs of gods are demonstrably false. This doesn't prove the negative but gravely questions all of your unevidenced assertions.
This thread is a most excellent example of a foolish religionist trying to assert falsehood as truth and making all religion look foolish in the process.
I'll not derail this thread with the operations of synapses, chemical pathways of memory and personality and the functions of structures and areas of the brain. I'll not argue these facts, by the hundreds, evidence of life's processes, against some unevidenced assertion of an eternal soul. I'll not argue the facts of function loss, the cessation of chemical reaction, the quiescence of ion channels and synaptic connections, the evidence of the loss of life function and its demonstrable end of memory, sensation, personality and self, against the assertions of a continuation of life after the total physical destruction of everything that made us who we are without some equal weight of evidence. Something your religion has glaringly failed to do. Your soul and afterlife assertions are based solely upon your wrenching fear of ending. Emotion not rationality.
Other than emotional assertions, the wishful thinking of ignorance, you have nothing to evidence your claims. And the demonstrable science, the actual facts, the reality we know around us, most heavily weighs against your insistence. Your chariot wheels, your heaven, your afterlife are all claims without foundation, evidence and reason. You indulge fantasies nothing more.
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Message 325 of 1310 (752780)
03-12-2015 7:51 PM
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03-12-2015 6:59 PM


Re: Waiting for proof of a negative. Really?
Some Near Death Experiences are supported by Medical doctors.
And some are not. So what? You can get some doctors to support just about any stupidity that comes out of the intellectual end of the rectum.
BTW, have you ever heard of the OAA (orientation association area) of the brain? Did you know that, by controlling the blood flow to this area, we can induce out-of-body experiences, near death experiences as well as religious epiphanies? We can turn them on and off like a light switch. No god, no supernatural, no hyper-intelligent pan-dimensional beings. Nothing but a vascular clamp ... or trauma.
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Message 326 of 1310 (752782)
03-12-2015 8:10 PM
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03-12-2015 2:52 PM


The spirit is willing but the flesh controls.
... we aren't just physical, we're also spiritual.
I have a spiritual side. We all do. It is a normal product of the structure of the human brain. The difference between us is I don't build an entire world of fantasy around it.
The physical dies, the spiritual is eternal.
Your unevidenced assertion is noted. However, the physical facts and evidence available negate such a figment.
I know, I know, reality doesn't mean anything. So be it. As long as you are happy, my love, then I am happy. ♥
Though considerably disappointed.
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Message 343 of 1310 (752925)
03-14-2015 2:58 PM
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03-14-2015 10:08 AM


Blind to Reality
Science is limited to the physical laws and properties of this world. The supernatural is not of this world.
Our technology may not be sufficient today, but anything that manifests in this universe is open to scientific study eventually. If something does not manifest itself in this universe in some way that means it does not have any effect on anything in this universe. You cannot say it actually exists since it can not do anything in this universe.
Your chariots are an excellent example. You claim they are supernatural. The "chariots" you point to are, you say, manifestations of this supernatural in our universe. This manifestation can be, and was, studied by science and was found, to no great surprise, to be testable, repeatable and natural in origin, not supernatural in any way.
There is nothing in this universe, nor anything outside this universe that manifests some effect in this universe, that science cannot study. Our study may in fact conclude that this "something here" is indeed of supernatural origin, but I wouldn't hold my breath awaiting such an outcome.
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Message 362 of 1310 (753034)
03-16-2015 12:08 AM
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03-14-2015 6:35 PM


Re: Blind to Reality
Those photographs are of reality.
Oh, yes, they most certainly are real. And what the science says about them is they are pictures of dust motes causing a halo effect in the light.
Your immortal soul may depend on it.
You really bought into that hook, didn't you? You probably give them your money when they demand it, too. You have sold the only soul you are ever going to have on a charlatan's promise. What an existence. You will fall into oblivion having always been a slave.

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Message 551 of 1310 (766276)
08-16-2015 2:19 AM
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08-15-2015 11:36 PM


I thought "soy" would be used for nigiri, chirashi, or maki?

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Message 746 of 1310 (766927)
08-24-2015 5:16 AM


Hallelujah! I have seen the spirit!
The Holy Spirit descending in bodily form like a Wrighton Painting
The Holy Spirit descending in bodily form like a flatworm
The Holy Spirit descending in bodily form like Flushing Meadows
The Holy Spirit descending in bodily form like a Clown
The Holy Spirit getting caught on the ass end of a bug

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Message 770 of 1310 (766980)
08-24-2015 6:04 PM
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08-24-2015 5:36 PM


Classical
Modern
I am probably one of the foremost leading authorities on the Holy Spirit in the entire world today.
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The Halo is the only thing in biblical artwork that appears alighting and remaining upon Jesus that I am aware of.
Some authority.

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Message 773 of 1310 (766983)
08-24-2015 6:15 PM
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08-24-2015 6:08 PM


pedantic
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AZPaul3
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Message 775 of 1310 (766985)
08-24-2015 6:26 PM
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08-24-2015 6:20 PM


Found two, actually.
Point being no blustering "authority" could have missed them if they had any real authority or expertise.
The bird is not the spirit but the representation of the embodiment
Example: You, sir, are the embodiment of delusion.
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Message 799 of 1310 (767115)
08-26-2015 8:32 AM


I think Faith may be right. He's deceived by demons.
Three specifically: Van Gloritous, De Lu Shun and Demon Shia.
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Message 801 of 1310 (767130)
08-26-2015 10:56 AM
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08-26-2015 8:52 AM


Corrected as requested, M'lady.
It is pretty good though, isn't it!

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Message 818 of 1310 (767219)
08-27-2015 5:09 AM
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08-26-2015 9:48 PM


Re: Eyes of the Lord
Notice how the center pupils are very small.
Narcotics.
Your god is a whacked-out junkie.

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