Re: Protests and counter protests at Islamic conference
We oppose Trump because of his pathological lying, destruction of our environment, destruction of our standing in the world, crusade against workers and safety, and monumental corruption.
You've made it clear that you are against freedom of religion, freedom of speech, the plainly stated birthright citizenship, and the Constitutional rights of non-citizens legal and illegal. Why not the 22nd amendment?
I would love to see you explain why the "send sick legal kids back to die" policy is a good idea. To me it means "No furriners welcome under any circumstances, and there's nothing too barbaric for us in this quest. Message 3274
Re: Protests and counter protests at Islamic conference
Pick one and I'll give you ten examples. I notice you aren't trying to defend any of his actions.
I would love to see you explain why the "send sick legal kids back to die" policy is a good idea. To me it means "No furriners welcome under any circumstances, and there's nothing too barbaric for us in this quest. Message 3274.
I take you approve of killing those legal immigrants.
Re: Protests and counter protests at Islamic conference
It's exactly as presented, except I made one mistake; {ABE} some of {/ABE} the parents of the sick children are illegals.
Thankfully, it seems the outcry, especially from Biden, has led them to step back.
Do you read any news? Such as the ultra-right-wing Breitbart.com ?
quote:The federal government is reversing course and will allow a group of roughly 1,000 sick illegal migrants to keep getting U.S. medical treatment. The reversal is a partial win for Joe Biden, who has begun claiming President Donald Trump’s deputies are trying to cruelly unplug sick children.
The reversal came Monday via an announcement by the citizenship agency, which said it would restart processing requests for deferred action.
The requests are made by illegals seeking to defer their legal deportation so that they or their children can keep getting medical treatment....
The statement suggests that the USCIS will not accept future requests from illegals to stay in the United States for medical treatment. Also, a plan to transfer the deferred action requests to the ICE enforcement agency appears to have been dropped.
Re: Protests and counter protests at Islamic conference
No, that's not all he's saying. Other than the moronic claim that he's "owed" time for his failure to make any major achievement in his first two years:
quote:At an event for the Wounded Warrior Project, Lt. Gen. Michael S. Linnington, chief executive of the veterans charity, gave Trump a trophy to thank him for his support.
Well, this is really beautiful, Trump told the crowd in the East Room of the White House. This will find a permanent place, at least for six years, in the Oval Office. Is that okay?
After some laughter from the crowd, Trump continued: I was going to joke, General, and say at least for 10 or 14 years, but we would cause bedlam if I said that, so we’ll say six.
Trump also made a joke on the same topic last year. In a speech to Republican donors at his Mar-a-Lago estate, he praised Chinese President Xi Jinping for doing away with term limits.
He’s now president for life. President for life. No, he’s great, Trump said, according to CNN. And look, he was able to do that. I think it’s great. Maybe we’ll have to give that a shot some day.
quote:The following month, in a rally with Republican members of Congress, Trump said this: "We're cutting record numbers of regulations -- we've cut more regulations in a year and a quarter than any administration whether it's four years, eight years, or in one case 16 years," Trump said. "Should we go back to 16 years? Should we do that? Congressman, can we do that?"
In response to the hubbub created by that "joke," Trump pushed back -- and, in the process, affirmed that he wasn't really joking at all (bolding is mine). "You know the last time I jokingly said that the papers start saying, 'He's got despotic tendencies,'" said Trump. "No, I'm not looking to do it. Unless you want to do it, that's OK."
quote:Consider the case of Marie and her 13-year-old son. They were visiting Boston in 2013 when the boy fell ill. He was diagnosed with sickle cell anemia, a genetic condition for which he’s been treated at Boston Medical Center. She filed for medical deferred action almost immediately and they were approved in 2017. The status, valid for two years, meant she could get a work permit and he would be granted MassHealth and afford access to life-saving care. She is required to bring him into BMC for monitoring every two months; otherwise acute problems might arise that can result in brain damage or kidney failure, she said. Last week, Marie got a denial letter from US Citizenship and Immigration Services after filing for a renewal. They were instructed to leave within 33 days or else risk deportation.
Mariela Sanchez from Guatemala is the mother of one of the children..
quote:Sixteen-year-old Jonathan Sanchez entered the country in 2016 with his parents. They left their home country of Honduras seeking treatment in Boston for the teen's cystic fibrosis. The Sanchez family has extended their tourist visas in the past and last year, applied for medical deferred action, hoping to remain in the country to continue what they say is lifesaving treatment.
"I'll probably die because in my country, there's no treatment for CF [cystic fibrosis]," Sanchez said, when asked what would happen if he goes back to Honduras. "Doctors don't even know what's the disease. The only ones who can help me are here in the United States."
Newsflaah:Faith refuses to condemn killing sick kids! IOIYAR.
You're right, at least some of them are legal.
quote:Consider the case of Marie and her 13-year-old son. They were visiting Boston in 2013 when the boy fell ill. He was diagnosed with sickle cell anemia, a genetic condition for which he’s been treated at Boston Medical Center. She filed for medical deferred action almost immediately and they were approved in 2017. The status, valid for two years, meant she could get a work permit and he would be granted MassHealth and afford access to life-saving care. She is required to bring him into BMC for monitoring every two months; otherwise acute problems might arise that can result in brain damage or kidney failure, she said. Last week, Marie got a denial letter from US Citizenship and Immigration Services after filing for a renewal. They were instructed to leave within 33 days or else risk deportation.
Mariela Sanchez from Guatemala is the mother of one of the children..
quote:Sixteen-year-old Jonathan Sanchez entered the country in 2016 with his parents. They left their home country of Honduras seeking treatment in Boston for the teen's cystic fibrosis. The Sanchez family has extended their tourist visas in the past and last year, applied for medical deferred action, hoping to remain in the country to continue what they say is lifesaving treatment.
"I'll probably die because in my country, there's no treatment for CF [cystic fibrosis]," Sanchez said, when asked what would happen if he goes back to Honduras. "Doctors don't even know what's the disease. The only ones who can help me are here in the United States."
refusing to cooperate with anything he wants to do even though they themselves have held the same opinions.
List two examples. Include the evidence that liberals "held the same opinions". Remember that the zero-humanity policy isn't a carryover from Obama, as I pointed out a few days ago.
If you respond at all, I predict it will be an easily debunked lie.
Hey, howzabout killing them kids? They're not citizens, anything goes, right?
It appears that they are not backtracking very far.
quote:The agency, part of the Department of Homeland Security, had sent letters informing those who had asked for a renewal, which the immigrants must make every two years, that it was no longer entertaining such requests. The letters said that the immigrants must leave the country within 33 days, or face deportation.
On Monday, the agency said in a statement that while limiting the program was appropriate, officials would complete the caseload that was pending on August 7.
The statement said that deportation proceedings had not been initiated against anyone who had received the letter. However, it did not say whether it would continue to grant immigrants extensions to stay in the country or whether the program would be continued after current applications are processed.
When asked for clarification, an agency official said the agency is taking immediate corrective action to reopen previously pending cases for consideration.
Whether a very limited version of deferred action will continue forward at U.S.C.I.S. is still under review. More information will be forthcoming, said the official, who only agreed to speak on background.
Translation: we're going to wait until the hullabaloo dies down and off 'em on the down low.
quote:"Sen. Chuck Schumer, who you will be hearing from later tonight, has repeatedly supported a physical barrier in the past along with many other Democrats," Trump said Jan. 8 in his prime time address on the border wall. "They changed their mind only after I was elected president."
That’s a mischaracterization of the barrier that won Democratic support 13 years ago.
Just over half of Democrats in the Senate voted for the Secure Fence Act of 2006, which was signed into law by President George W. Bush, including then-Sens. Barack Obama, Chuck Schumer and Hillary Clinton. Most Democrats in the House voted against it, including Rep. Nancy Pelosi.
The law authorized a fence along about 700 miles of the border between the U.S.-Mexico border. By 2015, U.S. Customs and Border Protection had constructed 654 miles of fencing, the Government Accountability Office reported.
The fence was different from the wall Trump promised to build on the campaign trail, which he said would be made of "hardened concrete" as tall as "95 stories" with a "very big, very beautiful door."
Trump derided the 2006 fence as too modest during the 2016 campaign he said it was "not a wall" but a "little fence" that could be scaled with a ladder.
"Now we got lucky because it was such a little wall, it was such a nothing wall, no, they couldn't get their environmental probably a snake was in the way or a toad," Trump said. (Actually, the project didn’t face environmental hurdles; we rated that part of the claim Mostly False.)
So what the Democrats voted for was much much smaller in size and extent, and has been in place for years. If it was the same thing why would Trump denigrate it and want to replace it.
Do you guys never stop with the lying accusations?
Do you ever try to defend the barbarities of this administration?
There's not one lie in my posts on this subject. I even dug up a post from an ultra-right-wing site confirming the existence of the termination of the program. (Of course they had to lie about the legal status of the people in the program.)
The fact is that Ken Cuccinelli and Stephen Miller, with Trump’s blessing, want to kill sick brown kids to let everyone know there's no evil to which they won't sink to get rid of immigrants legal and illegal.
The fact is also that you haven't lifted a finger to check my facts. You assume they're lies because they don't fit your dogma.
Finally, it's a fact that you standing by silent without any interest in reality or compassion makes you complicit in the brutality.
Re: Protests and counter protests at Islamic conference
His aged and somewhat impaired grandmother misunderstood the translator or the translator messed up. She saw his father, Barack Hussein Obama (senior, but not at that time) born. An easy mistake to make.
quote:The claim is based on an Oct. 16, 2008, telephone call between Bishop Ron McRae of the Anabaptist Churches of North America and Sarah Obama of Kenya, Barack Obama's elderly step-grandmother. The interview is complicated by the addition of at least one translator, because Sarah Obama, then 86, spoke Swahili.
The edited portion that often makes the rounds on the Internet includes this part of the interview:
McRae: "Could I ask her about his actual birthplace? I would like to see his birthplace when I come to visit Kenya in December. Was she present when he was born in Kenya?"
"She says yes she was. She was present when Obama was born," said the translator.
Smoking gun? Only if you stop the tape there and don't listen to the rest of the interview.
McRae immediately followed up by saying, "Okay, when I come in December, I would like to go by the place, the hospital where he was born. Could you tell me where he was born? Was he born in Mombasa?"
The translator can be heard translating, and then, he said, "No. Obama was not born in Mombasa. He was born in America."
Said McRae: "Whereabouts was he born? I thought he was born in Kenya."
The response came back, "He was born in America, not in Mombasa."
"Do you know where he was born?" McRae continued. "I thought he was born in Kenya. I was gonna go by and see where he was born."
"Hawaii. She says he was born in Hawaii," the translator said. "In the state of Hawaii, where his father, his father was also learning there. The state of Hawaii."
"I thought she said she was present," McRae said. "Was she able to see him being born in Hawaii?''
"No, no," the translator said. "...She was not ... she was here in Kenya. Obama was born in America ... Because the grandmother was back in Kenya and Obama was born in America, where he is from, where his father was learning, learning in America, the United States."
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