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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
This is the background about the fighting behind the far right factions.
Nick Fuentes and Charlie Kirk are white nationalists that disagree on how vile they should be. How Donald Trump Jr. Landed Smack in the Middle of a Right-Wing Civil War Here is a look at both of these fine white boys.Nick Fuentes - RationalWiki Charlie Kirk - RationalWiki Edited by Admin, : Rerender to create links with titles. Edited by Admin, : Rerendering again, this time to title the first link. For some reason the 2nd and 3rd links are not titling.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
but what I heard
No one cares what you "heard". Provide data and sources. What you heard is irrelevant and when what you herd is looked at it is usually shown to be incorrect or extremely misleading.So how about providing actual figures and sources? Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
I would argue that there is evidence that Jesus Christ has been and continues to be a Savior.
But you have no evidence other than your feelings and what does that actually mean?Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
I have never had a belief in hell and I seem to be doing quite fine.
Many religions do not have a hell or other form of punishment in the afterlife. Therefore they have no need of a savior from it. See what I did there. So the premise of your religion is. There was a dude that created all including a heaven and hell, then he sent his "son" down to one part of his creation in order to save people from going to the really bad place he created and he that is sending people to.He sounds kind of incompetent and/or weak to me. Or maybe just a tad confused? Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
The Moral Law can't change.
So your god dude isn't omnipotent or omniscient?Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
No one has ever been able to present any actual evidence of the existence of the Jesus Christ character.
All they present as evidence is stories no factual data. Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
There is a Buddhist Hell
What is it? How does it correlate with the christian hell? When you talk about the christian hell what are you talking about? Is it the hell of the bible or the one contrived by theologians and apologists?Can you describe this hell? Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
So you have no idea if there is a buddhist hell?
Curious why you did not respond to my other questions. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
So you know nothing about a Buddhist hell. If you did you would be able to talk about it.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4
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There is no buddhist hell. There is Naraka, but that is nothing like the christian hell.
Do you know anything about the christian hell? Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4
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Anyway the Buddhist Hell it is a place where sins are punished,
Buddhism does not have sins.
quote:Buddhist views on sin - Wikipedia You really should read before you spew. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
Yes that is true they don't believe in sin,
So you agree they do not believe in sinTherefore, what you said in the previous post Anyway the Buddhist Hell it is a place where sins are punished,
Was not correct. The rest of your post is just an attempt to shoe horn buddhism into chrstianity. Buddhism is nothing like christianity no matter how hard you try to make it so.Have you even looked into what Naraka actually is? Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4
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because I'd though Hell was strictly Christian.
Why is your ignorance relevant? Most religions have creation myths. So what? Your ignorance proves nothing. Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
If it did turn out to be real, what harm could it cause?
All these years and still you resort to Pascal's Wager? This line of argument has been destroyed many times here, but again you go with it. I won't waste my time with the rest of the flaws in your post. Here is a quick takedown concerning the wager. This guy can discuss it much more eloquently than I can. But basically, you want us to live a lie, so that you feel better about your religion? AS I state regularly, the hubris of the religious never ceases to amaze me.
quote:The Flaws Of Pascal’s Wager – Whistling In The Wind Edited by Theodoric, : subtitleFacts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
The whole point is that you don't know it to be a lie.
Do you really not understand basic logic and reason? This argument does not fall apart if we don't "know" it is a lie. It is that the person believes it is a lie.So you think your god dude would rather someone think they are living a lie and not really believe, but pretend they believe? I know, logic and reason is tough for you fundies. You have chosen that line of reasoning by falling for the sketchy evidence of mythicists.
Deflection and strawman again. At least you are consistent. My interest, research and support of the mythicist position has nothing to do with Pascal's Wager.You call mythicist evidence as sketchy? The whole premise of the argument is that there is no evidence. You may be able to make some sort of argument that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence(I disagree with this argument somewhat), but absence of evidence is evidence of nothing. You have no evidence so do not attack me because I agree there is no evidence but go to a reasonable explanation. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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