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Phat
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Message 243 of 1124 (892495)
03-08-2022 1:59 PM
Reply to: Message 228 by PaulK
03-08-2022 7:42 AM


Re: LNA Unplugged?
Wiki writes:
ccording to Christina Petterson, "Politically speaking, tankies regard past and current socialist systems as legitimate attempts at creating communism, and thus have not distanced themselves from Stalin, China, etc."[3]
According to The Guardian, "tankie" has re-emerged as internet slang for Stalinists, used by other leftist Marxists.[4] According to Vice, the contemporary expression is particularly popular among young democratic socialists.[5] Modern tankies generally do not get along with non-Marxist–Leninist segments of the left and many of those who oppose tankies also consider themselves leftists.[6]
Were I to label anybody, I would agree that LNA leans toward the type of Marxism
that was authoritarian and was not as racist or prejudiced as Western cultures were perceived as. I would suggest that LNA is in favor of free global immigration and would like to see all people everywhere intermingle. The reason that *we* do not want that is because it would bite the hand that feeds us. I freely admit to having issues with Marxism and even socialism unfettered because it would bring me down to the level of ringos darling masses trying to level everything out. Im trying to get LNA to open up, but he likely does not want to do it publicly. He thinks that we, being all Americans, prefer a Western form of government rather than a Socialist one. Or some degree of consensus at any rate. Comments? LNA? Anyone?

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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Message 244 of 1124 (892496)
03-08-2022 2:02 PM
Reply to: Message 242 by Tangle
03-08-2022 1:48 PM


Comrades In Arms or Despotic Puppets?
He seems quite young to have been a General. Or maybe it's just that I'm so old.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Message 246 of 1124 (892507)
03-08-2022 3:13 PM
Reply to: Message 245 by Tangle
03-08-2022 2:13 PM


Re: Comrades In Arms or Despotic Puppets?
Tangle writes:
And I'd be really grateful if we could talk about what's actually happening - people are dying defending their country and a Western democracy rather than calling a idiotic, and mostly incompressible, troll names. Perspective chaps, please.
I agree. This war is sad and I feel for the brave Ukrainians and their brave leader.
Mostly I watch war news on either Al-Jazeera or the BBC. I fear that this conflict will embroil the whole world in one way or another, and I just heard that Shell is apologetic about buying crude oil after the sanctions went into effect and pledge to no longer do it. Putin is being pushed into a corner (of his own making, mind you) and Zelensky addressed the MP in the UK.
Ukraine war: President Zelensky speaks to UK MPs. Zelensky reminds me of Churchill.
Russia facing setbacks in Ukraine, US intelligence officials say (From Al-Jazeera)
Edited by Phat, : added Al Jazeera report

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Message 258 of 1124 (892546)
03-09-2022 8:08 PM
Reply to: Message 251 by LamarkNewAge
03-08-2022 9:37 PM


Re: LNA Unplugged?
Well we do know that the Capitalist Rebublic known as the USA killed fewer people than did Red Russia. (Soviet Union)
So what do you have against "white" capitalists?
Ukraine is in an area frequented by the Tsars who were against Communism.
So what's so good about Communism?
Putin id not anticipate that most of Ukraine wants him to get lost.
So why do global communists (according to you) vote otherwise?

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Message 259 of 1124 (892547)
03-09-2022 8:10 PM
Reply to: Message 257 by jar
03-09-2022 7:25 PM


Re: Stalinist of course
The man made very progressive and liberal arguments that still resonate even today.
You and I are better off under the current system.
And I think I know your counter-argument. If the US focused more on building up other nations and more butter than guns, we would be better off.
If it had been Trotsky rather than Stalin, would more people be alive today? Would there even be a war in the Ukraine?
Joseph McCarthy wants to know. Is the Eisenhower Republican from Deep South Texas a closet Communist?
Edited by Phat, : No reason given.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Phat
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Message 293 of 1124 (892643)
03-11-2022 9:43 AM
Reply to: Message 260 by LamarkNewAge
03-09-2022 8:37 PM


Re: LNA Unplugged?
LNA writes:
You might not have been born, if not for Stalin.
I was born in the US. What possible power could Stalin have had to deny me my birth? Only Jesus Christ has that kind of power.
I was born in 1977. I doubt I would have been born, if not for Stalin. Aside from metaphysical theories, we would all have failed to come to be, if not for Stalin.
Reminds me of the philosophy of Nietzesche, which influenced Adolf Hitler and Josef Stalin. This gets into the sick and demented demons of justification for mad power and disdain for God and the church.
Jar has argued that Hitler was a Christian. He was, however, under the delusion that the God he worshipped was in lockstep with the State. Hitler and Stalin shared some characteristics.
I am a "Marxist forever", just because I existed from 1977 to 2022. My existence cannot be taken away, no matter how hard somebody - NOW - trys.
You can bet that the Christians in Ukraine feel the same way. Only they worship the "God" of the West vs the "God" of the State. Persecution makes people stronger.
One question, LNA. Were you born in S.Africa? Certainly not born in the West.
And in looking up
Winnie Mandela
, I can see where your possible hatred of white privilege began. But again, I am only speculating.
And for the rest of the peanut gallery who has branded LNA as a mass murderer supporter, I need to connect the dots between Stalin and Putin.
One clue may come in the religious historical rift between the Russian Orthodox Church and the Ukrainian Orthodox Church. White and Red.
Edited by Phat, : added picture

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Message 297 of 1124 (892663)
03-11-2022 3:12 PM
Reply to: Message 294 by Tanypteryx
03-11-2022 11:34 AM


Re: LNA Unplugged?
If you wanna go there, Hitler would have lost even if Russia never entered the War. It would have taken far longer and cost a mammoth amount of future NATO lives(Europe+USA) but the real reason Hitler lost the war was because of his antisemitism. The Jewish Scientists who escaped Nazi Germany were in large part responsible for the Atomic Bomb, V2 rocket (history of missiles), and jet fighters (which Hitler insisted be bombers, reducing their effectiveness.
That being said, a lot of Russian lives were lost in WWII, and also a lot of German lives could have shored up Normandy and changed the course of history. I won't give Stalin all of the credit.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Phat
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Message 337 of 1124 (892829)
03-15-2022 12:58 PM


Two Poignant Videos
Not sure what Finland and Stalin have to do with this current war except that Putin described the war initially as a "special assignment to root out Nazis.. Go figure
From the BBC:
The teenagers at war with only three days training
BBC News Brief
I worry about whether chemical or biological weapons will be introduced.
Russia allowed them in Syria but later distanced themselves from international condemnation.
Two more from Al Jazeera. I suspect that Putin wants to "crash" the US Dollar and force us to suffer.
The global economy could be facing one of the largest energy-supply shocks ever, oil experts warn.
Analysts say sanctions are likely to push Moscow toward developing alternatives to the US-led financial system.
Edited by Phat, : No reason given.

Edited by Phat, : No reason given.


"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Message 346 of 1124 (892892)
03-17-2022 11:20 AM
Reply to: Message 342 by Tanypteryx
03-15-2022 5:59 PM


Re: Two Poignant Videos
Trump is itching to become a Western Leader again. I see echos of civil war here, skyhigh inflation, and a bunch of ignorant populists poised to vote for him.
And you guys dont think I am sane when I see either a secular armageddon or a sacred armageddon.
Only God can help us. (or a charismatic global leader who can charm secular humanists the way that Trump charms Populists) which would be the anti-christ.
I think that Biden is doing a decent job to keep us out of this war so far, but I fear that Putin wont stop. Which will lead to skyhigh prices. Which will lead to God knows what.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Phat
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Message 347 of 1124 (892893)
03-17-2022 11:25 AM
Reply to: Message 345 by AZPaul3
03-16-2022 9:10 PM


Re: Nuke the Ukes!
Nothing. I say now, though, that our first priority is to keep Trump out of it. Even if Americans do suffer. I really worry about World War III the more that I read. Unless Putin is right and his own "5th column" takes him out. Isn't it odd how Tzar Vladimir the Condemned sees the obvious and warns Russians to repel it?(see video below) Let's hope that Russia is as ready for democracy as Ukraine was. If the 5th column wins, we may actually get rid of Russias Nukes and a few of our own.
Edited by Phat, : numerous punctuation errors. I need my coffee

Edited by Phat, : No reason given.


"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Message 349 of 1124 (892895)
03-17-2022 11:36 AM
Reply to: Message 339 by jar
03-15-2022 4:00 PM


Re: Two Poignant Videos
jar writes:
#TzarVladimirTheCondemned can not even change US gas prices.
What we must understand, however, is that NATO sanctions are only now ramping up against Russian Energy. Inflation is changing US Gas Prices. And the Fed has no tool that will work against it.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Phat
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Message 353 of 1124 (892901)
03-18-2022 2:15 AM
Reply to: Message 351 by jar
03-17-2022 12:08 PM


Re: learn the basics Phat and throw away ALL of the apologists and conmen
You are the one who is ignorant this time, jar.
jar writes:
And the Fed has many tools to deal with inflation which for the foreseeable future is only an issue for the utter stupid of people like you.
Name the tools they have left.
Were you alive in the 1980s Phat?
I was born in 1959. I remember Jimmy Carter. I remember Ford and his WIN buttons. I also remember Fed Chairman Paul Volker and how it was only through raising interest rates to 20% that inflation was stopped. Try raising interest rates to even 5% now and watch what happens.
What was Armageddon when we were seeing inflation rates over 10% a year?
They measure inflation differently now. If the inflation we have now were measured the way it was measured then, our current inflation would approach 18-20%. As for Armageddon, 1980 was neither the time nor place in History for it. I have no idea when it will occur, but we are a lot closer now than we ever were then.
Have you watched the PBS FRONTLINE series about Tsar Vlad The Condemned? They laughed at Hitle too until he nearly wiped us all out. And now we again have the nuclear problem. And a meglomaniac dictator with the ability to use it.
One of the ways Putin wants to wipe us out is to make us suffer. Our land will fight itself with civil war from within. Hopefully, we can prove him wrong.
Edited by Phat, : No reason given.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Message 393 of 1124 (892950)
03-20-2022 9:45 AM
Reply to: Message 392 by AZPaul3
03-20-2022 9:17 AM


Re: Stalinists! Nazis! and Psychos! Oh, my!
I think LNA trolls us when we get angry at him. The fact that he is a Marxist from way back shows that like Putin, he misses the old WARSAW Pact and the Soviet Union as an alternative to the so-called White People who in his mind are all that NATO is. He despises the power of the US over everyone...but he can rest assured that it will be China at the helm in ten more years. Which is no excuse for supporting the bloodthirsty Putin.
I tried to reach out to him but he is evasive and won't open up fully. I say we suspend him permanently

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Message 394 of 1124 (892951)
03-20-2022 9:50 AM
Reply to: Message 378 by LamarkNewAge
03-19-2022 9:53 PM


Att: Percy
These statements alone are enough to suspend LNA for a long time. On behalf of the peanut gallery (whom I usually fuss with) please shut LNA's hate speech up.
Edited by Phat, : No reason given.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Message 395 of 1124 (892952)
03-20-2022 9:56 AM
Reply to: Message 364 by Tanypteryx
03-18-2022 9:39 PM


Re: Nuke the Ukes!
Hit Moscow with the 10 biggest nukes we have now.
One will be all we need. No use accelerating climate change.
Which by the way is the secular armageddon I mention. People will fight for diminishing resources orrrrrr we will become a one-world global (UN 3.0?) government...
Do you humanist optimists see any better solutions? Isn't it you guys who like mandatory resolutions if they save the planet? I say we need Jesus.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
***
“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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